Originally Posted by LongseerEldrad
He was not the only one, however he is probably the closest by chaos standards (the have been a few inquisitors that were "alowed" in..) however him getting his hands on that knowlege would be deadly to existance.
The Library Guardians allowed a few Human Inquisitors entrence to the Black Library. It was safe to do as they were found to be uncorruptable, they didn't and couldn't have gained access by themselves, they were allowed in and pose no threat because of it.
Ahriman is the person/entity that has come closest to gaining entrence that would have used the information within for his own ends. No other has come so close.
Originally Posted by Prince Endymion
This thread had gone on hilhariously too far.
People have already begun to repeat themselves in their posting and re-posting.
The Hierarchy of psychic power in 40k is pretty well established, and was listed several times in the first few posts in the this thread. The only discrepency is between the fans of the Chaos gods and the fans of the Emperor, respectively.
Unfortunately, there can and wil be NO answer for either side about who truly possesses the greater power. Not only is there no official account from GW about either side, but the sides of the story that fans have access to are deeply biased in favor of the codex being referenced.
Furthermore, people gravitate toward interests their mind can most easily relate to. Fans of the Emperor are thus becouse they find it somehow more logical (in their mind) to relate to that perspective. The reverse is also true about the Chaos gods and their fans.
What makes perfect sense to one fan may sound completely bogus to a another, and so no consensus will ever be reached.
Chaos, however, has just the right amount of vague, catch-all phrases such as "the chaos gods are beyond the comprehension of mortal minds", or are ancient beyond the founding of the universe" and so on, that they can never be based, or rebutted.
It is better that people simply choose what they see as most logical and stick with it, attempting to convice others is juvenile in this regard.
Indeed. Although I think theres no argument. The Emperor is certainly the most powerful Psyker in the Galaxy.
The Chaos Gods are not Psykers.. and there powers and abilities cannot easily be compared to the Emperors. They are beings from seperate dimensions, dimensions which innatley have nothing in common and are complete opposites.
We know that the Emperor posed a threat to the Chaos Gods, so the Chaos Gods stopped warring amongst themselves and set in motion the Horus Heresy to remove the threat. The result was that the Emperor 'ascended' to the Golden Throne, and no longer poses a major threat to the Chaos Gods (in his 'current' state anyway) - hence why they have gone back to warring amongst themselves.
That being said, the Emperor alone is using his immense power to prevent Chaos from completley swamping the galaxy, powering the Astronomican to allow Imperial Warp Travel, Sealing the Imperial Webway Gate and preventing the Sol System from being swamped by Daemons, aswell as guiding the High Lords and other notable Imperials via his Tarot.
The Emperor and the Chaos Gods are in seperate leagues and cannot easily (maybe cannot be at all) be compared.
I basically argued that because the Emperor posed a threat to Chaos and Chaos removed that threat, that the Emperor's Imperium is crumbling, his existence is one of agony and Chaos is thriving and dominant in M41 that the Chaos Gods would arguably be superior. But I know you'll never agree Prince