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OBJECTION!!

Down with Obliterators!

Then my stupid best friend wouldn't field an army with six of them at once. Honestly having to fight that nearly every game since he wont field an army without them is enough to drive you to drink .

And whats wrong with Chaos Bikes? I thought they were supposed to be a good fast attack choice.
I think your friend is tricking you, I'm fairly certain there is a 0-1 limit on Obliterator squads which can only have a max of 3 models to a squad.

and yes bikes are good and decent but loyal sm get both and frankly the fluff is poor at explaining why csm don't get both bikes and speeders as well, that's the problem this thread means to address.

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I think your friend is tricking you, I'm fairly certain there is a 0-1 limit on Obliterator squads which can only have a max of 3 models to a squad.

and yes bikes are good and decent but loyal sm get both and frankly the fluff is poor at explaining why csm don't get both bikes and speeders as well, that's the problem this thread means to address.
I've been arguing with him about those Obliterators for months, he claims he can field two squads of three and get his freakin Berzerkers as a troop choice. Although I did get payback the other night when My Death Company which he keeps laughing at carved through both his obliterator squads and I and my ally then proceeded to kill his commander who happened to be Abbadon.

I do remember reading old fluff that said that the Land STCs were discovered after the heresy. But I think we can safely say that that's cobblers.
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I think your friend is tricking you, I'm fairly certain there is a 0-1 limit on Obliterator squads which can only have a max of 3 models to a squad.

and yes bikes are good and decent but loyal sm get both and frankly the fluff is poor at explaining why csm don't get both bikes and speeders as well, that's the problem this thread means to address.
You must be thinking of the OOOOLLLLDDDDDD Codex, not the two-year old modern one. Taking 3x3 Oblits is legal. They are Heavy Support, not elites. Zerks are Troops. etc.etc.

As regards Renegade Speeders, Tzeentch's amusement caused all future Chaos Speeder pilots to also succumb to the Rubric, which explains also why there are Rubric Marines that aren't Thousand Sons.
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Yea Aragorn is right 2 squads of 3 Obliterators is legal in the new codex.



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You must be thinking of the OOOOLLLLDDDDDD Codex, not the two-year old modern one. Taking 3x3 Oblits is legal. They are Heavy Support, not elites. Zerks are Troops. etc.etc.

As regards Renegade Speeders, Tzeentch's amusement caused all future Chaos Speeder pilots to also succumb to the Rubric, which explains also why there are Rubric Marines that aren't Thousand Sons.
So youre saying that Chaos lost the speeders coz the traitor legions started to drive like old ladies? I mean we all know how slow the Rubic Marines are right

And again Apox on Obliterators.
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