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Default Loyalist Marine- Traitor Geneseed.

Ok so I am reading the new Salamanders book and the Marines Malevolant have made an appearance and reading them I keep thinking of the pre-heresy World Eater Captain (Badass) Skraal from the Horus Heresy Battle of the Abyss novel.

So I'm wondering could the Marines Malevolant be a second founding chapter that used World Eaters Gene Seed that the Imperium had stockpiled somewhere? I know this was hinted at with the Blood Ravens, but how likely is it do we think?

I have to admit I would love it if the MM and other chapters were based on World Eaters gene seed since that was the Legion I really wish hadn't turned traitor, since they turned to chaos they've become a little bit... sissy.
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Im sorry did you say that the World Eaters turned sissy as traitors? Or did you mean the Marines Mavolent? Are you high? Kharn is such a badass.
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Ok so I am reading the new Salamanders book and the Marines Malevolant have made an appearance and reading them I keep thinking of the pre-heresy World Eater Captain (Badass) Skraal from the Horus Heresy Battle of the Abyss novel.

So I'm wondering could the Marines Malevolant be a second founding chapter that used World Eaters Gene Seed that the Imperium had stockpiled somewhere? I know this was hinted at with the Blood Ravens, but how likely is it do we think?

I have to admit I would love it if the MM and other chapters were based on World Eaters gene seed since that was the Legion I really wish hadn't turned traitor, since they turned to chaos they've become a little bit... sissy.
Hell, pal, the Second Founding formed Space Marine Chapters broken from the First Founding Legions with a ratio of 1000 marines per new chapters more or less and 10 new chapters from one "old" Legion.
The traitor Legions were excommunicated before even considering the Second Founding... You can't have Second Founding chapters from traitoris Legions.

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Im sorry did you say that the World Eaters turned sissy as traitors? Or did you mean the Marines Mavolent? Are you high? Kharn is such a badass.
Yeh the World Eaters turned into total pansy's when they turned traitor in my eyes. Yeh Kharns an unholy ass kicker but he's in no way as badass as Skraal or that WE captain on Istvaan III (I forget his name) who turned around and tried to take on his own legion when they turned on the loyalists. Kharns just mindless thumpyness now no menace at all for me. I mean every time I've fought somebody who uses Kharn he's done more damage to my opponent than me.

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Hell, pal, the Second Founding formed Space Marine Chapters broken from the First Founding Legions with a ratio of 1000 marines per new chapters more or less and 10 new chapters from one "old" Legion.
The traitor Legions were excommunicated before even considering the Second Founding... You can't have Second Founding chapters from traitoris Legions.
So all the stockpiled Gene-Seed from those traitor Legions was destroyed? I was thinking maybe the High Lords, the Inquisition or the Admech who have a history of dirty deals may have been thinking "Hey why waste it" and used it to create a few chapters. It was hinted at in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade when there was supposedly a connection between the Blood Ravens and the Word Bearers.

And the more I read Salamander the more I'm becoming very suspicious coz honest to god the Marines Malevolant act exactly like the World Eaters used too when they kicked ass and took names, as opposed to now when they just run away from Kharn.

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The geneseeds are locked in a timed vault on Terra. They didn't destroy them, that would have been foolish.

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The geneseeds are locked in a timed vault on Terra. They didn't destroy them, that would have been foolish.
Where do you read that?

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SM codex, Pg 8

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Which one?

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5th ed. Under the list of the first founding chapters.

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5th ed. Under the list of the first founding chapters.
Hell! I stoped on the 4th Ed;! The rat bastards, they chose the 5th Ed. to add that master-fluff data!
Thanks a lot, though.

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