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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 11-28-07, 07:59 PM
 
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when i found this out it led me to stop collecting my dark angels and start collecting Death guard
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post #12 of 24 (permalink) Old 11-28-07, 08:51 PM
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Lionel and his poem seem to have as much in common with Lion'el and his Dark Angels as Poes "The Raven" and Corax have.
And that'd be not much.
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oh..... Right.
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DA are awesome why would u dtop collectin?! but like bloodhound thees and thous blah i got bored.

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its an old poeme, thats was the style of writing and mostly speaking, people dont realise this but if we were sent to the 41st mellenium or even the 1700's people wouldnt understand us at all they speak english but not our english. i can even imagine what a conversation in high gothic is like, would make my head hurt alot
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High gothic is a completly different language is it not it could be derrived from any language as this is thousands of years in the future when who knows all races become one? I mean they all unite so who's to say its not just a mixture of hundreds of languages?
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the lion isnt based on lionel jonson or the poem at all, but the chapter itself draws from the history of the poet. lionel was gay at one point. however, lionel repented for his ways and wrote that poem about his dark side, which he strove the rest of his life to atone for.
the dark angels chapter is now consumed by its need to atone for an ancient wrongdoing...coincidence? i think not

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It's funny, all this fuss about him being gay.

What I heard was the inner turmoil he was wrestling with was alcoholism.

Gotta disagree though that "the Lion isn't based on Lionel Johnson ... at all" though, he's pretty obviously the inspiration. When the background to the Dark Angels was first revealed, in late 1987 (when all the Raven's Wing rode jetbikes!) the Primarch of the Dark Angels was called "Lionel Johnson or Johansen". Not "Lion El'Johnson", but definitely "Lionel Johnson".


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Yeah, reading way to much into the possible gay thing. I think the essence of the poem is that when you atone for something dark in your past, you feel like you have to make it up to society, yourself, God(or the Emperor) or people who depend on you. Which is what the Dark Angels are all about, atoning for the heresy of the past.
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Yeah, reading way to much into the possible gay thing. I think the essence of the poem is that when you atone for something dark in your past, you feel like you have to make it up to society, yourself, God(or the Emperor) or people who depend on you. Which is what the Dark Angels are all about, atoning for the heresy of the past.
hot damn dude you hit that nail on the head...kudos and rep to u sir

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