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Default Primarch Discovery Order

I know no official discovery order of the Primarchs has been revealed, but i want to make a list which is as accurate as possible as to the order in which the Primarchs were discovered (with your help of course )

Heres some facts we know:

1. Horus was discovered first.
2. Alpharius Omegon was discovered last.
3. Perturabo was discovered before Angron and Guilliman. (Source: After Desh'ea)
4. Magnus was discovered before Lorgar. (as he, alongside the Emperor discovered Lorgar)
5. Fulgrim was discovered around 160 years before the Horus Heresy as his flagship was built then. (Source: Fulgrim)
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6. Fulgrim was discovered before Konrad Curze.
7. Jaghatai Khan was discovered before the Lion. (The Dark Angels first mission (Post-Primarch Discovery) was taking over from the White Scars)
8. The Lion was discovered roughly 148 years after the start of the Great Crusade. (Fallen Angels is set in the 203rd Year, and also set 50 years after Descent of Angels.)
9. Rogal Dorn was discovered seventh according to the Horus Heresy Chapbook.
10. According to 'Fulgrim' the gun Ferrus Manus made for Vulkan was forged 200 years prior to Isstvan III (ish), therefore both Ferrus Manus and Vulkan would have been discovered 200 years prior to the Heresy, which would make them two of the first found, although I fear this may have just been a mistake by Graham McNeill.
11. All the Primarchs were discovered prior to the Ullanor campaign. (Source: Legion)
12. Vulkan was discovered before Angron. (Source: After Desh'ea)
13. Guilliman was discovered before Angron. (Source: After Desh'ea)
14. Mortarion, Corax and Dorn were discovered before Magnus (Source: A Thousand Sons Page 385-387)
15. Magnus implied to have been discovered before Fulgrim, Ferrus Manus & Lorgar - although not conclusive evidence (Source: A Thousand Sons Page 96)
16. Magnus, the Khan and Sanguinius discovered before the Lion (Source: A Thousand Sons Page 322)



Where no information exists on certain primarchs we can logically assume their discovery order in accordance to there homeworlds distance from Terra. From this we can assume that following Horus; Magnus, Russ and Sanguinius were some of the early discoveries. (Although this is not solid evidence).

In no Strict Order...

Personal Speculated First 5 (1-5): Horus, Perturabo, Fulgrim, The Khan, Corax.
Personal Speculated Next 5 (6-10): Russ, Rogal Dorn, Guilliman, Mortarion, Magnus.
Personal Speculated Next 5 (11-15): The Lion,
Personal Speculated Last 5 (16-20): Alpharius, Night Haunter


Anyone have any more information?! (+Rep to those who can find or knows any relavent information! )



Here is the table so far:

1. Horus Lupercal of the Luna Wolves.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Rogal Dorn of the Imperial Fists.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Alpharius Omegon of the Alpha Legion.

(Ive only included 18, as its pointless including the Unknown Primarchs in this! )



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The Lion was discovered before Leman Russ, according to call of the Lion
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I don't have the source but if you check out http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Konrad_Curze it mentions that the Night Haunter studied under Fulgrim meaning that Fulgrim would have to have been discovered before he was.
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wernt they discoverend in numerical order except horus who was discovered first????

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If you go by ther historys and rivalries, and hints in there storys you can get a picture of a loose framework but some contradict each other heres my take only how ive always seen them opinion as always welcome


1. Horus
2. Rogal Dorn
3. Magnus the red
4. Robart Guilliman
5. Sanganus
6. Pertribo
7. Jaganti Khan (if you read desent of angel)
8. Lion el Johnson
9. Leman Russ
10. Ferrus Manus (if you read fulgrim)
11. Fulgrim
12. Angron
13. Lorgar
14. Moration
15. Conrad Cruze A.k.a Night haunter
16. Vulkan
17. Corax
18. Alparios/Omagron
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wernt they discoverend in numerical order except horus who was discovered first????
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Looks good Trog, but theres a few little tweeks i can see though, Pertruabo should be before Guilliman for example



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The Legion numbers indicate 2 things
A) the number allotted to the Primarchs creation (we know this from "False Gods" as one of the tanks that Horus indicatd to as belonging to a lost Primarch is also the number of the legion of a lost Primarch.

B) The legion created from that Primarch also carrid that number.

Lion el Johnson was in tank one and so his geneseed was the first used to create a Space Marine Legion. Alpharius is the only one who was created, found and his legion founded in the same sequence order (as far as I am aware).
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Indeed. yea Alpharius Omegon was the only primarch who was discovered in order compared to his Legions Number - XX

So do we have any more info on the discovery order?



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Ferrus Manus was discovered before Fulgrim, but their discoveries probably weren't too far apart. I'm basing this on the fact that they had their weapon-crafting competition shortly after Fulgrim was dicovered and arrived on Terra.

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Yeah another thing you missed from after Desh'ea
Vulkan of the Sallies was discovered before Angron
Kharn says about how the salamanders waited for the emperors call
So we can say that Vulkan Gulliman and Peturabo where all found before Angron

We can also say that Peturabo was found before Gulliman

Also just through Kharn's words it suggests Angron is quite far down the list whilst he discusses the rumours of Vulkan before Peturabo
It is nothing concrete but it could be a clue

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