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Page 114 of the new rulebook. Aeldari factions, one is listed as ++REDACTED++ and bears what is unmistakably a Slaaneshi symbol beside it. Is it just me, or does this seem to suggest that not all eldar were necessarily opposed to what happened? I remember in... The First Heretic, I think? Lorgar was shown a vision of the Eldar's Fall and it was explained to him that they would soon be faced with a "choice."

To my knowledge, this is the first time we've learned of an eldar faction that is not one of the ones we've already known. The other eight listed are Aeldari (referring to the race as a whole), Exodites, Craftworlders, Corsairs, Outcasts, Drukhari, Harlequins, Ynnari.

The artwork is curious as well. Anyone have any ideas?


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Might be related to the Masque's antics during the Fall of Biel'tan. But also eldar whom snapped totally to delve even deeper into depravity and excess than even the drukhari, making deals with slaanesh to save their own skin or just plain ole lust for power. Especially if their ambitions repeatedly has been checked by Asdrubael Vect and leading to a too deep resentment and feeling of entitlement. There was that Soul drinkers novel with a deldar archon doing a slaaneshi ritual. At the time it seemed far fetched, but now? Clearly there is eldar whom have gone off the deep end.
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Chaos Eldar have even got their own Phoenix Lord


Arhra - The Fallen Phoenix who burns with the dark light of chaos.


I don't think he's Drazhar as Dark Eldar don't tolerate chaos as it could break Commoragh by causing dysjunctions.
I'd love Drazhar to turn out to be someone else, like Drastanta from the shining spears just to mix things up :D


But I'd absolutely love a full Chaos Eldar Faction.
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Chaos Eldar have even got their own Phoenix Lord


Arhra - The Fallen Phoenix who burns with the dark light of chaos.


I don't think he's Drazhar as Dark Eldar don't tolerate chaos as it could break Commoragh by causing dysjunctions.
I'd love Drazhar to turn out to be someone else, like Drastanta from the shining spears just to mix things up :D


But I'd absolutely love a full Chaos Eldar Faction.
True, I'd actually forgotten about Arhra. Proof enough that eldar can fall to Chaos.


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Page 114 of the new rulebook. Aeldari factions, one is listed as ++REDACTED++ and bears what is unmistakably a Slaaneshi symbol beside it. Is it just me, or does this seem to suggest that not all eldar were necessarily opposed to what happened? I remember in... The First Heretic, I think? Lorgar was shown a vision of the Eldar's Fall and it was explained to him that they would soon be faced with a "choice."

To my knowledge, this is the first time we've learned of an eldar faction that is not one of the ones we've already known. The other eight listed are Aeldari (referring to the race as a whole), Exodites, Craftworlders, Corsairs, Outcasts, Drukhari, Harlequins, Ynnari.

The artwork is curious as well. Anyone have any ideas?
Actually this has been touched on recently in Black Library. In the Phoenix Lord novel Jain Zar: Storm of Silence by Gav Thorpe the aftermath of the Fall, which takes place over centuries rather than a short period of time, is shown and part of the story is Jain Zar and Asurmen searching for other Eldar survivors. At one point they find a collective of Eldar that call themselves Nir Erva Vanamin, they cosmetically alter themselves to appear almost indistinguishable from another and follow a practice of Harmony. They allow no privacy of thought or emotion, permanently connected to each other by their "Harmony Gems", and speak of the Saviour that created them while allowing none to rise above another. Their voice Daivanesh talks to Asurmen about their duty to spread Harmony across the galaxy and bring all under the Saviour's gaze, a path of utter conformity of thought, emotion, appearance and life.

A very creepy Slaaneshi cult. Don't know if they survived the millennia or not, but I doubt it. Chaos Eldar is an interesting concept and this shows that Asuryan's Children can fall for the lies of Chaos just as humans can.


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I know this was intended to be about what's in the rule book, but there's plenty of new lore in the Dark Imperium novel. There's no spoilers to the story in here, just some facts that are mentioned in the book, but in case anyone wants to save all this for reading the novel, I'll put it in a spoiler tab.


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The bit about Typhus and Mortarion makes a lot of sense, since Typhon embraced chaos from the outset and Mortarion was slowly forced into a corner and make to accept certain things.

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The bit about Typhus and Mortarion makes a lot of sense, since Typhon embraced chaos from the outset and Mortarion was slowly forced into a corner and make to accept certain things.
Typhus also mentions the fact that Mortarion has spent most of the last 10,000 years swanning around the Garden of Nurgle basically just smelling the flowers and scratching his ass, while Typhus has been out and about working hard spreading the word, and STDs, of Nurgle.
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