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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-09-17, 07:36 AM
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I think regardless of intentions of big E; for the fluff and the writing, I think its quite good that the least visually recognisable as 'human' are the ones with the most humanity. The interactions between them and other legions in the snippets I've read bring some fantastic insight into how far the space marines are from being human. It's easy (as humans) to humanise everything we encounter [just think how you might view two dogs interacting; we almost instantly impose our own human interactions on them to reconcile how they interact and how we think they should interact].
There's a bit in Helsreach where Grimaldus is absolutely flabbergasted that the Salamanders want to 'help humans survive' instead of simply bashing ork face. Its almost anathema that you'd pick guard duty over attacking.
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On the other hand, the space wolves also have a soft spot for mortals when not pretending to be growly savages, the imperial guard in particular. Been several ocassions where theyve gone out of their way because of the guard being in trouble. Like the months of shame or the battle for montberg spaceport
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Good discussion here. I have encountered Salamanders in Helsreach for the first time and I didn't like them for what Brother Dextus wrote above.

BUT on the other hand Salamanders are constant reminder to me that there can be more "humane" chapters with feelings. It is very important for me when developing my own fluff because I am empathetic human after all and it is hard for me to write about killing machines with suppressed emotions.
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Seems the Salamanders was used as a rapid response force to tough threats behind the lines of the great crusade. Such as sudden space hulk arrivals or xenos treats. Which whittled down their numbers and gave them extensive contacts with mortal soldiery. Often the only astartes force available, due to everyone else pushing the borders of the imperium. So they seem to have been planned and used as gatekeepers and defenders since their inception.
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One other similarity though this might be very superficial, these are the only 3 founding legions who inherited traits related to their animal totems from their gene seed/ primarch. Wolves, dragons, and hydras. The Luna wolves had wolves in their name but I don't recall any animal traits.

Everything else is more abstract . . . Greek letters, hands, angels, books,

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Wouldnt exactly call the Alpha legion to have animalistic traits on par with the sallies and wolves. their whole hydra stick is a modus operandi, no unusual physical changes like what the 2 others have.
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