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In regards to losing, I meant as the Necrontyr, not the Necrons. I could easily be mistaken but I thought the whole reason they turned to the ctan was that their absence from the warp meant any kind of psyker attack would demolish them. Is that incorrect? If not, I don't see how more of that would help.
The necrons are absent from the warp. They can't harness it nor really defend against it. Pariahs are something else entirely. They aren't literally soulless, it's that their physiology channels the warp in a negative fashion, acting almost like a black hole to warp energy. It's as though they channel the warp in the exact opposite way to how a psyker does, enabling them to nullify psychic powers and demonic presences. Given that psykers and warp creatures were perceived to be the biggest challenger to the
Necrons' dominance, it is a no brainer that creating such beings as Pariahs is a fantastic long term investment.


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The necrons are absent from the warp. They can't harness it nor really defend against it. Pariahs are something else entirely. They aren't literally soulless, it's that their physiology channels the warp in a negative fashion, acting almost like a black hole to warp energy. It's as though they channel the warp in the exact opposite way to how a psyker does, enabling them to nullify psychic powers and demonic presences. Given that psykers and warp creatures were perceived to be the biggest challenger to the Necrons' dominance, it is a no brainer that creating such beings as Pariahs is a fantastic long term investment.
That makes a lot more sense! Thanks for clarifying.
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Isn't being detached from the warp kind of what lost them the War in Heaven in the first place? Why are they striving for more of that?
The Necrons (and C'tan) are complete warp blanks. They cannot so much as touch the warp if they wanted to, which is what also makes them so unique. Since they lack this ability they have become the masters of real-space, learning to bend and manipulate the physical universe to meet their purposes. It is how their ships are still capable of interstellar flight and similar feats that generally require at least some access to the warp.

However, despite the fact that they do not need the warp, it is still something that is beyond their control and thus a threat. The C'tan absolutely hate the Warp. The Old Ones (and later the Eldar) were only able to keep the forces of the C'tan at bay as long as they did during the War in Heaven due to their prowess in harnessing the power of the warp to use against them. Because of this the C’tan began their great work and had the Necrons construct a series of pylons which, if completed, were intended to close off the Warp from the material universe entirely. This plan failed of course, but had it succeeded the immediate effect would would have killed all psykers in the galaxy instantly, sealed off any and all warp entities from being able to influence real-space ever again, and leave all life in the galaxy at the mercy the C'tan.

Back on topic of the OP, the "Necron Pariah" is simply an extension of their hatred for the warp, psykers, and all that. By taking the Pariah gene found in some humans and integrating it into a new generation of Proto-Necron, they were essentially developing soldiers that could be used to directly counter the warp on the field of battle. As it was still in its proto-stage when the Necrons rebelled against the C'tan, there most likely aren't a whole lot of them. It would be cool to see them come back at some point.

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I love Pariahs, need to be brought back. I think the biggest reason they sorta got put on the back burner is the introduction of lychguard which fill their melee role. Hopefully Paraih comeback and give Cron's a good anti-psyker unit that has a unique balanced role.

As for Paraih numbers, I literally see no reason why Cron's can't just clone them, being literal masters of the Material Universe, replicating the gene should be no trouble. Harvesting fresh pariah would just be for keeping a good pool of genes to pick from.

Also hopefully we get Necron Pariah characters.

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As for Paraih numbers, I literally see no reason why Cron's can't just clone them, being literal masters of the Material Universe, replicating the gene should be no trouble. Harvesting fresh pariah would just be for keeping a good pool of genes to pick from.
I would love to see the return on the Pariah in its completed form. Remember that the version in the old Cron book was essentially a proto-necron. It wasn't classified as a true Necron unit, couldn't benefit from any army perks (reanimation, any form of teleportation, etc.), and didn't count towards remaining units for the old "phase out" rule.

From a lore perspective it really feels like the project died out in its infancy when the Necrons overthrew their enslavers. It would be really cool if in a later book we have a Phaeron somewhere who revives the project and sees it through to completion.
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