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Didn't we pick up the word Soccer from that little known country of England?
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Find an English person who calls it soccer without irony.



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Let me hop in my time machine and I'll do it no problem.

Go back 140 years and the English would be calling it soccer.

Why do you think we Americans call it soccer?

Doing some research, it looked like you English called it soccer all the way up through the 70s.
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Soccer is right!

Perhaps inconsequential is too severe, but in general I think the pendulum has swung toward the descriptivist side of the war.


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Let me hop in my time machine and I'll do it no problem.

Go back 140 years and the English would be calling it soccer.

Why do you think we Americans call it soccer?

Doing some research, it looked like you English called it soccer all the way up through the 70s.
They would?

As for up to the 70's, everyone I know born prior to the 70's calls it footy. Christmas Truce? Call football. If you mean as an Oxfordism, then yeah, "Soccer", a bit like "Rugger", for Rugby, or "Redders" for Red Hot, or Fiver for Five Pound Note.

Thing about all of these? They're slang.

In America, it's language, and not ironically spoken.



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They would?

As for up to the 70's, everyone I know born prior to the 70's calls it footy. Christmas Truce? Call football. If you mean as an Oxfordism, then yeah, "Soccer", a bit like "Rugger", for Rugby, or "Redders" for Red Hot, or Fiver for Five Pound Note.

Thing about all of these? They're slang.

In America, it's language, and not ironically spoken.
Yeah it's footie for slang or football for non slang. Soccer is only ever spoken by REALLY posh people like David Cameron and they're not normal

Anyway is Soccer pronounced sock - er or sew - chair Sorry couldn't resist as I saw a TV program with a comedian pretending to be a US commentator who was unfamiliar with football and so pronounced it sew - chair!

I totally forgot about Roboute Guilliman - he's another corker to pronounce. To me it's row - boot gull - i - man but I've heard the row - boot - ee gwee - lee - man as well

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They would?

As for up to the 70's, everyone I know born prior to the 70's calls it footy. Christmas Truce? Call football. If you mean as an Oxfordism, then yeah, "Soccer", a bit like "Rugger", for Rugby, or "Redders" for Red Hot, or Fiver for Five Pound Note.
They would. Why do you we Americans call it soccer? Because we like being different? It's the same reason why we use imperial.

And ask your 80 year olds and ask what they called "football" in their youth or what most people did.
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They would. Why do you we Americans call it soccer? Because we like being different? It's the same reason why we use imperial.

And ask your 80 year olds and ask what they called "football" in their youth or what most people did.
We use Imperial too in the UK. Miles, pints, yards, inches, feet, pounds and ounces. We even have an extra imperial measurement you guys don't. We have a stone which is 14 pounds. I've never understood why the US uses Imperial but forgot about the weight measurement above the pound.

I've checked with an elderly person and it's been known as football by "normal" non posh people for at least the last 90 years.

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Abaddon. Is it Ab-a-ddon or A-bad-un? First time I saw the word (in an old Fighting Fantasy book) I read it as a-bad-un but then heard everybody else saying it differently so accepted the more common pronunciation. Now I'm not so sure. I feel like I could have been right in the first place

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Ahh now to me Tyranids is Ti (pronounced like tid to rhyme with lid but without the d) - a - nids so thats another one I've got to query with myself now.

Schaeffer for me is shay (to rhyme with gray) - fer
Thanks for your input on the others, I always thought it was San - gwin - ee - us like in the word Sanguine but equally I can see how it's San - gween - ee - us too
The pronunciations I mentioned are ones I was wrong about when I was younger- I don't pronounce the y in tyranids as an 'eye' sound any more, though now I think of it the word 'tyrant' definitely suggests t-eye-ranids.

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Abaddon. Is it Ab-a-ddon or A-bad-un? First time I saw the word (in an old Fighting Fantasy book) I read it as a-bad-un but then heard everybody else saying it differently so accepted the more common pronunciation. Now I'm not so sure. I feel like I could have been right in the first place
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The pronunciations I mentioned are ones I was wrong about when I was younger- I don't pronounce the y in tyranids as an 'eye' sound any more, though now I think of it the word 'tyrant' definitely suggests t-eye-ranids.
The Tyranids are named after the first planet recorded as being destroyed by them, Tyran, which I imagine was pronounced similarly to 'Tyrant'. However, Tie-ranids sounds far too Southern for me to take it seriously. "Gosh darn it, y'all gotten a buncha Tyranids rampaygin' aroun' the yard I tell you h-what!"

If there's anything that could make Thaddeus shouting "TYRANID ASSAULT!" every twenty seconds on Dawn of War II even more comically annoying, it'd be pronouncing it "Tie-ranid Assault!"

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