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So, I know this characters fluff is particularly disliked by many people, but I was just reading his character bio in the new codex and noticed a particularly troubling quote...

"Since that day the Supreme Grand Master has wandered the tides of Immaterium, no Daemon or god strong enough to defeat him."

What "god" in the warp could not defeat Draigo? Is this quote trying to say that the Chaos Gods cannot defeat him?
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Yep. Stupid.

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I'm guessing no god or daemon strong enough that he has actually met.

It's probably part of the Great Game for whatever they're doing. It's not like he could headbutt Khorne into submission or something. It's all about the Long Game.
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Why defeat him, when you can have him locked away in the Warp, having him slaughter endless Daemons - They are eternal anyway? This way he makes absolutely ZERO difference, as opposed to being dead where he could become a martyr.

Seems to me like they want him to think that he's immortal, yet trapped; A much greater punishment and mockery than just killing him.
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Draigo is like the special boy whose drawing you put on the fridge. Yea, good job Draigo.


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If only Draigo were around during the Heresy, he could have stopped Horus on Istvaan. In fact, Horus would never have been made warmaster with a warrior as singular as Kaldor Draigo around.

I wonder which gods they mean... I thought minor Chaos gods were retconned? I remember an old WFB Chaos book that referred to minor/lesser gods, and obviously you could have undivided daemon princes not long ago but now it seems everything I've read suggests only the big four exist

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He's getting tar-pitted. Chaos doesn't care about the points they're losing to him, since they're not in the main battlefield. He's being prevented from effectively defending humanity from targeted Chaos endeavors by giving him 'general' Chaos endeavors.

That said, I betcha he's trying to make a difference. And maybe he does in some small way occasionally.

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Why defeat him, when you can have him locked away in the Warp, having him slaughter endless Daemons - They are eternal anyway? This way he makes absolutely ZERO difference, as opposed to being dead where he could become a martyr.

Seems to me like they want him to think that he's immortal, yet trapped; A much greater punishment and mockery than just killing him.
This of course is the real answer. Taking him to the warp denies him any actions of consequence in reality, and also denies him the glory of dying for the Emperor and Imperium.

But then again, how much must they loathe him to inflict this fate upon him rather than death? There's only one reason they would go to this much trouble.


They want to break him. Not to see him dead or defeated, but utterly broken and spent. They want to make HIM give up, because his surrender would be one of their greatest single victories, one that would be surpassed only by corrupting the Emperor himself.


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This of course is the real answer. Taking him to the warp denies him any actions of consequence in reality, and also denies him the glory of dying for the Emperor and Imperium.

But then again, how much must they loathe him to inflict this fate upon him rather than death? There's only one reason they would go to this much trouble.


They want to break him. Not to see him dead or defeated, but utterly broken and spent. They want to make HIM give up, because his surrender would be one of their greatest single victories, one that would be surpassed only by corrupting the Emperor himself.
Draigo's situation reminds me of A nice place to visit, classic twilight zone episode man goes to a place where no matter what he succeeds, wins at a casino robs banks whatever. Only to find out he's in hell.
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Couldn't find the original video, looks like they took it down.

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