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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-08-15, 07:24 PM
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those battles were unavoidable no choice scenarios mostly
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They've got some amazing tech, so it's a question of scaling up production. A 40k Terminator is impressive, but it's rare. The Tau battlesuits, otoh, seem like they'd do well under mass-production.

Having scalable technology is a huge question mark when it comes to how weak a race is.

Wealth is created when we use new knowledge to create new things or improve efficiencies.
This technology, along with people pondering applications using type three levers is literally a new mechanical revolution in waiting. There are going to be many patents, from people who're curious and can tinker.

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The Imperium has bigger problems to deal with than the Tau, like the ongoing 13th Black Crusade, the sheer scale of the nid threat, and the growing shadow of the Necrons.

However, they could still fall foul of a Waaagh or hive fleet themselves, and their strength is divided between the Ethereal controlled home worlds and the enclaves controlled by Farsight, their most capable military leader. A civil war might be what eventually destroys them. What happens within their own society in the coming years is almost more interesting than what might happen to them on a wider galactic scale.
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I don't think the Tau are doomed. Its because of the fact they don't pose a direct threat to any race or army. They would benefit greatly with an alliance with another race.

Unless a race like the Orks or Tyrannids were focussed on annihilating the Tau, I don't think they are about to get exterminated anytime soon. Even the Imperium and any crusades against the Tau will have to be redirected against forces who are annihilating and completely wiping out their interests on other fronts. Though the Tau may pose a threat to some parts of the Imperium's Empire, it would be territory that could be retaken and its structure mostly intact.
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Well altho they are already technically allied with many xenos, I think you meant some greater " minor " xeno race right? Aren't Hrud like the next major race not counting the main races? What I could see happening is Tau establishing a contact with non-imperium human civilization that already accepted xenos in their midst. There's already a substential number of humans in Tau society anyway.
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The Tau should be fine based on how quickly they scale up tech in the fluff; they're sort of the underdogs, late to arrive but with some of the coolest toys, the ability to make more and better toys, and the desire to do so.

Also, until we have any idea where the Ethereals came from and what they're up to, it'd be hard to count them as utterly doomed -- at least when compared to everyone else.

Best case scenario? Everyone else destroys one another, and the Tau introduce what's left to the Greater Good.
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exactly the tau will be whos left standing in the end due to the fact everyone else will be to busy being idiots
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I think like a lot of the people here that Tau will be ok for the moment.

Basically they aren't big enough to offer a huge problem for anyone if they did turn their force on them, but currently there isn't enough of a reason to do it.

The Imperium are far to slow to act, as ordered get passed down a long chain leading back to Terra, and by the time they would reach the front line the orders are of no use as they are out of date or are twisted by all the local bureaucrats to fit their own needs and funds / forces will have been syphoned off to their own pet projects. The ones at the end that are asked to fight the Tau will stall and delay as much as they can to save their own skin as they don't want to be in the firing line. Also things like the Space Marines and Mechanicum are shit scared on even looking at the tech of other races to think that they should conquer them and enslave them to make new stuff for them.
Chaos on the other hand could and probably would go in and steal their battle suit tech to harvest for themselves. Maybe someone like Iron Warriors would love to make new Daemon Battlesuits.
Orks are random, if it happens it happens. But the likely chance is, unless they hit the home world then some Tau will find a way to hide off somewhere till it is gone. Also that greater good thing will likely mean if the Ork force is big enough that they will sacrifice whole planets and systems to limit the damage and repel the Orks.
Necrons are a bit random as well. Not sure of the reaction between them, but in either case they seem to busy piecing their Empires together again, and unless that happens to be the Tau homeworlds as part of one of those Empires they won't go after them.
Tyranids would be a random act of genocide on their part. If it turns out they are in the way then they might be crushed, if it brushes by the side then they will be happy. But as Tau have little to no warp presence, it isn't as if the Tyranids will have a lock-on to them.
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Well, the Imperium has to make the 'deliberate decision' to wipe out the Tau, and they're just not worth the effort compared to their other worries.

But for the 'nids and the Orks, I suspect that the Tau are 'worth it' to them the same way an Imperial planet would be. The biomass reward to the 'nids is comparable. The fun brawl aspect is comparable (but maybe less) for the Orks.

Now, technology vs. 'nids has always been hard to predict. 'Nids seem to have a ceiling in how effecively they can use any piece of biomass. And then you either do or don't have sufficient technology to defeat it. A bear is scary. But if you have IR goggles and a hunting rifle it's way, way less scary. A cloud of bumblebees is terrifying unless you have a bug bomb, etc.

If you pass a threshold in capacity, the problem becomes ... well, trivial.

Wealth is created when we use new knowledge to create new things or improve efficiencies.
This technology, along with people pondering applications using type three levers is literally a new mechanical revolution in waiting. There are going to be many patents, from people who're curious and can tinker.

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The Tau empires saving grace is its size really. Its not so large of a threat that i draws on a large scale attack from any of the major forces. And when a sizable force does get put against them from IOM will be redirected to bigger threats. They just have to pray that the Necrons don't pop up in their neck of the woods.
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