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I know this is a topic that gets discussed to death but Conquest just came out recently and somebody posted a few pages from Conquest in another forum... some interesting stuff. Please note there aren't many details. It is literally 2 pages from the book.

There were warbands from the loyalist legions that turned traitor and vice versa.

Now it isn't written as fact but as a report in universe so I won't say it's 100%. Also, it obviously depends if you take Forgeworld's HH books as canon or not.

Examples from the book:
  • Band of loyalist Night Lords attacking traitor forces at Estaban III
  • Reports of Astartes in the resurrected livery of the Dusk Raiders(Death Guard pre-Mortarian) fighting Iron Warriors at Kibron and Malinche's Fall
  • Great Company of Space Wolves bearing the symbol of the Serpent's Eye slaughtering millions at Neo Cadiz
  • Company of Astartes bearing hybrid arms and panoply of Iron Hands and Sons of Horus at Seige of Mezoa
  • Class of warriors known as 'Blackshields' during the HH...Astartes that covered up the livery of their parent Legion in black
  • Other loyalists from traitor legions wore their old colours proudly... The 34th Millennial of the Emperor's Children (the Death Eagles). They clashed with their traitor kin at Lethe and Revorthe Keep in the Coronid Deeps. Ultimate fate unknown


That's it. I thought they were interesting nuggets of information.
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There was also Kyr Valens Iron Warriors from book 3, and the Traitor White Scars from Scars.



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There was also Kyr Valens Iron Warriors from book 3, and the Traitor White Scars from Scars.
There have been quite a few but they always seemed to be outcast individuals, with the exception of the White Scars. For example, the IW from Angel Exterminatus, all the Grey Knights, and a few others I can't remember the names (or the stories). I thought it was interesting there were actual groups/warbands/chapters (whatever you want to call it) that turned from their primarch.

And this is the first time I have heard of traitor Space Wolves and Iron Hands.
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The bit with the great company of the space wolves might be more on part of the Alpha Legion, or so I'm thinking. They've already donned the Wolves livery before. Why not again, to cast doubt upon their loyalty? I seriously cannot imagine a whole great company turning from Russ and the Emperor.

Doesn't mean it couldn't happen though, I just find it highly unlikely

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And this is the first time I have heard of traitor Space Wolves and Iron Hands.
Read it yourself before trusting that guy about anything.

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Get in the bin, Beaviz. I have no idea where you got that I'm untrustworthy, or that what I say is full of lies. I think you're a fucking bellend, (which is true), but I'm upfront about it. If that's enough to be considered untrustworthy, well, I guess I'm the most untrustworthy bastard that ever lived.

Also, you're looking like a right prat (more than usual) when you actually read the OP.



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Get in the bin, Beaviz. I have no idea where you got that I'm untrustworthy, or that what I say is full of lies. I think you're a fucking bellend, (which is true), but I'm upfront about it. If that's enough to be considered untrustworthy, well, I guess I'm the most untrustworthy bastard that ever lived.

Also, you're looking like a right prat (more than usual) when you actually read the OP.
You tell people how to think and feel, and that fact alone means you are totally untrustworthy. Plus you seem to evict facts that doesn't suit you. Another thing is the fact that you come from the opposite end of me when it comes to understand written stuff. I mean a mugging can go down and you are likely to report a stabbing just for good measure, even if it doesn't happen.

All I did now was sowing doubts about you as source, nothing else.

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Enough. This isn't the place for the two of you to jab at each other. Get back on topic.
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