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post #221 of 243 (permalink) Old 11-02-14, 03:12 AM
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Uh uh

This man is THE master of tactics and logistics, at least according to his fanbase. I think a primarch should be able to do better; two birds with one stone, if you will.

No no.

Beat the High Lords of Terra *with* Mareus Calgar.

There; that's part of his profile now:

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Wargear; the beaten, battered, but still-conscious form of Mareus Calgar.

How would you stat a Chapter Master in termie armour with TL power fists, being used as an improvised club?


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His next course of action would then be to find Captain Titus and promote him to Calgars old job, while telling all his sons that this is how an ultramarine is supposed to act.
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Honestly I can never get why people think Guilliman would fly into a rage if he saw that the Ultramarines strictly adhere to the codex. After all, it wasn't widely known that he intended for the codex to be a guideline (he had to tell Ventanus that in person when the former couldn't get why strictly following the codex led to failure.)

Thousands of years of misinterpretation, on top of all the other changes since his time, doesn't seem that far fetched really.

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Just makes me chuckle is all.

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Honestly I can never get why people think Guilliman would fly into a rage if he saw that the Ultramarines strictly adhere to the codex. After all, it wasn't widely known that he intended for the codex to be a guideline (he had to tell Ventanus that in person when the former couldn't get why strictly following the codex led to failure.)

Thousands of years of misinterpretation, on top of all the other changes since his time, doesn't seem that far fetched really.
The ultramarines had 10 000 years to fall. Right now even free thinking is prohibited in that chapter.

While Guilliman was a master of logistics he also had the ability to improvise.

Aside from Ventris, Telion, Titus, and Sicarious maybe, none of the ultramarines are capable of independent thinking.
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Hyperbolic Graham McNeil is fucking ridiculous, as are his plots, and Rihanna 'only girl/marine i the world/galaxy' style of writing.

Feel free to ignore his writing as incredibly poor fanfic/slash fiction that he types by slapping his dick on the keyboard in semi random fashion. The codices themselves IIRC completely ignores the very presence of ventris, and make no mention of their hidebound limited point of view that mcneil writes about.



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Aside from Ventris, Telion, Titus, and Sicarious maybe, none of the ultramarines are capable of independent thinking.
I wouldn't say they are incapable of independent thinking, in the way you are using, it's more they are seriously punished if they think of there is an outside of the box.

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Hyperbolic Graham McNeil is fucking ridiculous, as are his plots, and Rihanna 'only girl/marine i the world/galaxy' style of writing.

Feel free to ignore his writing as incredibly poor fanfic/slash fiction that he types by slapping his dick on the keyboard in semi random fashion. The codices themselves IIRC completely ignores the very presence of ventris, and make no mention of their hidebound limited point of view that mcneil writes about.
He's mentioned in the tyranid codex. Third nid war timeline Pg 32 Defense of tarsis ultra sub heading.
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He was put in stasis 'at the moment of death', Ultramarine books.
Old source, newer source states he was entered upon the verge of death. You have two conflicting sources, I choose to align with the new source as the most canon source. Guilliman was entered as he was dying, and thus can be healed by the Iron heart as he is still alive. Ultimately we have multiple instances of primarchs on the "verge of death" or in the "moment of death", and yet they survive or recover through other unforeseen means.

Believing even for a second in fan theories that Guilliman died is based purely upon a lack of facts, canon material, and personal disdain for the Ultramarines. The far more logical choice would be to accept that the Ultramarines primarch is alive, and to build upon that logical route instead.


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Keen on advancement, well in the story at least think the game might even do a fantasy if the altered it then GW might dump it down like age of sigmar.

If guilliman wakes that certainly would bring large change to the current set up of the 40k universe. Primarily im thinking a continuation of the second imperium around the 5000 worlds and macragge. Then any concerns for building of an army I really don't think there would be any concerns with recalling all of the ultramarines successors then even building with the current population of the 5000 worlds, that and a little organisation and boom legion reconquer the universe murder tyranid, punch abaddon in the face till he stops being resurected, stop all the bullshit the high lords and exclesiarchy are up to and win!



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