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post #161 of 243 (permalink) Old 10-09-14, 01:01 PM
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So, Sanguinius is pretty. We know that. The art says that (although the feminine nose and sticky-out ears are kind of un"sexy"). As for Russ being "handsome", gonna call bullshit on that.

The only one with anything like is the Ultramarine. Ventris. And considering the rest of the proportions of the body is probably the equivalent of some astartes thalidomide baby.

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So, Sanguinius is pretty. We know that. The art says that (although the feminine nose and sticky-out ears are kind of un"sexy"). As for Russ being "handsome", gonna call bullshit on that.

The only one with anything like is the Ultramarine. Ventris. And considering the rest of the proportions of the body is probably the equivalent of some astartes thalidomide baby.

Try again.
Is this going to turn into another one of you guys' dick measuring contest. We already had one in this thread.

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Went from wanting a primarch to return (or not) to whether or not space marines are pretty marines? Fucking love this site.

Anyway, as far as the original topic goes, I'm of two minds about it. On one hand it would be cool to see the shakeup that would occur and the possible issues concerning the high lord's. On the other, I'd be worried that it could be handled poorly; don't just want Papa Smurf to stomp in and everything be sunshine and rainbows.

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ya lets get back on topic. Beaver and vaz go settle your dispute elsewhere

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Long story short, I would love to see a primarch come back and actually make a difference. I dont really want it to be roboute but heck it'd be cool. I would love to see a traitor primarch redeemed though honestly. I think it would be neat to see one of them cast off the shackles of chaos and fight back. Or just allow the alpha legion and their twin primarchs to show their true colors....it's been long enough
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I think it would be neat to see one of them cast off the shackles of chaos and fight back.
No....there's NO possibility of it. The surviving traitor primarchs are DEMONS fully, in order for that to occur the chaos gods would have to remove their blessings and actively restore them to their former glory. Generally when a Demon Prince loses their blessing they are absorbed by chaos god, unless they have enough worshipers to be able to sustain themselves.
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So the whole Guilliman taking charge vs. the paranoid leaders of the imperium. Since this is all opinionated fluff anyways (seeded from facts that we've read about in the novels). I'd personally believe that they'd use Guilliman to the best of their ability to defend the imperium 'their asses', then if the coast is clear they all backstab him and try to return to their pompous lives, though possibly having created a Civil War following the death of one of the Emperor's Primarchs.
I don't think Guilliman coming back would be useable by the High Lords, because I don't think Guilliman's going to have any interest in saving the Imperium's bacon. A resurrected Guilliman is going to have one look at the state of the Imperium and then say "Screw You. Got Mine." Ultramar is in good shape, especially relative to the rest of the Imperium, and it's always been his top priority. Imperium Secondous, mark two.

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No....there's NO possibility of it. The surviving traitor primarchs are DEMONS fully, in order for that to occur the chaos gods would have to remove their blessings and actively restore them to their former glory.
There's also the fact that none of the 'traitors' want to come back, or have any reason to. They weren't trapped or tricked, they fell by design and ascended on purpose. You can't be redeemed if you haven't done anything wrong.

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I don't think Guilliman coming back would be useable by the High Lords, because I don't think Guilliman's going to have any interest in saving the Imperium's bacon. A resurrected Guilliman is going to have one look at the state of the Imperium and then say "Screw You. Got Mine." Ultramar is in good shape, especially relative to the rest of the Imperium, and it's always been his top priority. Imperium Secondous, mark two.



There's also the fact that none of the 'traitors' want to come back, or have any reason to. They weren't trapped or tricked, they fell by design and ascended on purpose. You can't be redeemed if you haven't done anything wrong.
wow i never thought if it that way, guilliman saying fuck off to the imperium and focusing on ultramar. VERY good points you brought up.

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You are spot on with the two types. You have hardcore fans which in my opinion want the Ultras to be perfect, even though them themselves decries otherwise. And the newbies.
So, in your opinion, only two types of people respect the Ultramarines Legion/Chapter?
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Considering the necessity of the astronomicon and the extragalactic threats that he's going to have to deal with, I don't see Guilliman being that short sighted. He's going to know that he can't hold on his own and he's going to know he cannot, under any circumstances, allow Terra to fall. That means he's going have to come to an agreement with Terra or conquer it. If it's the latter than he's going to need to conquer the area between Cadian and Terra because he can't let Abaddon the traitor legions bust through the gate. Really, there's no way he just says "fuck this, I'm out." Just isn't going to happen.

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