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I've read TEG like 5 times and I don't recall having read that.
Not surprising since it occurs in Ravenor Rogue.

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So I guess you missed the line where Ravenor stated that as a teen he had no psychic abilities of his own.
He had no active abilities that were entirely his own as a teenager, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a lot of power. Just no outlet for all of it. On Zael's power, Ravenor said he had "Empowered deep potentials." And that's what we're talking about, his raw power.
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Not surprising since it occurs in Ravenor Rogue.



He had no active abilities that were entirely his own as a teenager, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a lot of power. Just no outlet for all of it. On Zael's power, Ravenor said he had "Empowered deep potentials." And that's what we're talking about, his raw power.
Ah I wasn't aware Hyperion featured in other books.
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Ah I wasn't aware Hyperion featured in other books.


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I've read TEG like 5 times and I don't recall having read that.


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So I guess you missed the line where Ravenor stated that as a teen he had no psychic abilities of his own. He was a mirror as in he was able to be a psyker as long as another psyker was in range.

He never gained any abilities that he could use alone till he became a grey knight. That was the emperor's gift.


Also, consider his inception into the Grey Knights. He would normally have been considered too old for recruitment. But his sheer potential for psychic power, even among Grey Knights, made them reconsider, and start the implantation process on him. So despite his age, his drug history, and his relations with Ravenor, who was in deep shit at the time, they still decided to give him a chance. And Grey Knights are only picked out of the most talented and powerful psykers the Inquisition finds. So the fact that they were willing to take that gamble on him, based purely on his potential psychic might, speaks a great deal about his inherent power. And then also consider the fact that some of the most powerful, skilled and talented Grey Knights (which, by them being Grey Knights, should easily put them amongst the most powerful psykers in the Imperium), recognised his powers, and considered him a potential future peer.

So, if you take all that into account, and then take into account his feat of shattering Angron's blade, Hyperion is easily amongst the most powerful psykers shown in the fluff, even if he doesn't have his own special Codex supplement.

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The Tau prefer long range warfare versus close-range because they're pitiful up close.
Hah, In Damocles collection, Shadowsun is fighting a White Scar captain on equal ground, and that is upclose and personal.

I haven't read in detail about Tau and I know that Ethereals are supposed to be quite good in close combat , but isn't this far fetched a bit?

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and the fact that the basic Ork soldier is capable of killing and piercing the armor of a Space Marine with nothing more than a spear.
Haven't heard of Feral Orks being capable of that, but normal boys with their chopa are more than able. It's all in their powerful muscles, really. :/

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Similarly I'm bothered by the fact that Genestealers, of which there are millions, can slice up Terminator armor like it's made out of butter
Makes you wonder what are their claws made of huh? If a Terminator armor is nothing to them, nothing short of super heavy tanks and titans is capable of withstanding their claws then.

Which is incredibly dumb.
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Makes you wonder what are their claws made of huh? If a Terminator armor is nothing to them, nothing short of super heavy tanks and titans is capable of withstanding their claws then.
Well they DO have rending - Apparently it's on a 2+ in the books, in comparison to the game
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Not a tabletop player, sorry XD
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Also, consider his inception into the Grey Knights. He would normally have been considered too old for recruitment. But his sheer potential for psychic power, even among Grey Knights, made them reconsider, and start the implantation process on him. So despite his age, his drug history, and his relations with Ravenor, who was in deep shit at the time, they still decided to give him a chance. And Grey Knights are only picked out of the most talented and powerful psykers the Inquisition finds. So the fact that they were willing to take that gamble on him, based purely on his potential psychic might, speaks a great deal about his inherent power. And then also consider the fact that some of the most powerful, skilled and talented Grey Knights (which, by them being Grey Knights, should easily put them amongst the most powerful psykers in the Imperium), recognised his powers, and considered him a potential future peer.

So, if you take all that into account, and then take into account his feat of shattering Angron's blade, Hyperion is easily amongst the most powerful psykers shown in the fluff, even if he doesn't have his own special Codex supplement.
Allot of artistic licensing was used in those books. According to the emperors gift which was written after and makes direct references to both series he has no potential of his own. He was a mirror.
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