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In dawn of war the inquisitor stripped Gabriel Angelos and the blood ravens of his imperial guard support. Can an inquisitor do that even to space marines
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An Inquisitor can declare an entire chapter of SMs to be heretics or traitors, so yeah, he could do something like that as easy as blinking.
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Yep, no one, not even the High Lords themselves are above the remit of the Inquisition. Though they will need a significant amount of support and/or influence to do anything extreme and actually succeed in doing so. Astartes are just as likely to ignore an Inquisitors request as they are to follow it however, depending on their relationship.

Key example as ever being the Space Wolves, of what can happen if an Inquisitor attempts to exert his authority over the Astartes without fully comprehending the fallout of such actions. The Wolves utterly disregard the Inquisitor in charge of the cleanup and fallout of the First War for Armageddon, actually killing him in the end as well as several Grey Knights with him, including a Grand Master.
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Astartes are just as likely to ignore an Inquisitors request as they are to follow it however, depending on their relationship.
I suppose it depends on the Chapter. The proud Chapters of the First Founding (and even the prestigious few of the Second Founding) would be quite willing to defy the Inquisition if they thought it was right to do so, or in their own self-defence. As would many other Chapters of subsequent Foundings. However, I wouldn't say that all Chapters or Space Marines are just as likely to ignore an Inquisitor's request as they are to follow it. They are all well aware of the power and necessity of the Inquisition.

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Key example as ever being the Space Wolves, of what can happen if an Inquisitor attempts to exert his authority over the Astartes without fully comprehending the fallout of such actions. The Wolves utterly disregard the Inquisitor in charge of the cleanup and fallout of the First War for Armageddon, actually killing him in the end as well as several Grey Knights with him, including a Grand Master.
True. Though the problem with using the Space Wolves as a key example is that they're widely known as anti-authoritarian and even ignore the Codex (the corner stone of the philosophy and law of 99% of the Adeptus Astartes). Some Chapters would willingly defy the Inquisition, but I would wouldn't claim most would readily do so.



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Perhaps should have been more clear in my wording, in that they are just as likely to follow an Inquisitor as they are to defy him, depending on the chapter in question.
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Can an inquisitor do that even to space marines
The Inquisitor did nothing to the Space Marines. He, technically, has no Inquisitorial rights to do anything to a Space Marine neophyte. This bars any specific oath or fealty the marines may owe to a specific Inquisitor.

What the Inquisitor did was command the Imperial Guard to cease their support of the Space Marine contingent. THAT is well within an Inquisitor's power.
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I see in one of the dawn of war games the big cluster fuck in which imperial guard, space marines and sister of battle fought each other The guard refused to follow the blood ravens orders to leave due to having orders from the IG top brass.

I guess if an inquisitor told the guard to leave they would. Where the hell was inquistion during this cluster fuck of a campaign
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The guard refused to follow the blood ravens orders to leave due to having orders from the IG top brass.
Generally that'd be correct. The Space Marines also have no rights to command the Guard. They're two separate entities.

This isn't to say that some Imperial Guard commanders wouldn't be intimidated or respect the majesty of the Adeptus Astartes to obey them, anyway. Some would.
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Generally that'd be correct. The Space Marines also have no rights to command the Guard. They're two separate entities.

This isn't to say that some Imperial Guard commanders wouldn't be intimidated or respect the majesty of the Adeptus Astartes to obey them, anyway. Some would.
Yeah most loyal guard would love to fight alongside them (cept the marines malevolent)but when inquisitor says nope the space marine ain't getting any support from you imperial guard have to obey since its unhealthy to disobey an inquisitor.
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True. Though the problem with using the Space Wolves as a key example is that they're widely known as anti-authoritarian and even ignore the Codex (the corner stone of the philosophy and law of 99% of the Adeptus Astartes). Some Chapters would willingly defy the Inquisition, but I would wouldn't claim most would readily do so.
I agree. The SWs are the exception rather than the rule. Their standing as a first founding chapter and proven willingness to go toe to toe with the so called forces of authority gives them a lot of leeway most others wouldn't ever get. Most other chapters would dance to any tune played by an Inquisitor. Some, like the Exorcists and Red Hunters, have very close ties to the Inquisition.

Look what happens to chapters that piss off the Inquisition. We have two prime examples in the Relictors and Celestial Lions.
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