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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-17-14, 07:17 PM
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I agree. The SWs are the exception rather than the rule. Their standing as a first founding chapter and proven willingness to go toe to toe with the so called forces of authority gives them a lot of leeway most others wouldn't ever get. Most other chapters would dance to any tune played by an Inquisitor. Some, like the Exorcists and Red Hunters, have very close ties to the Inquisition.

Look what happens to chapters that piss off the Inquisition. We have two prime examples in the Relictors and Celestial Lions.
Just thinking more about this, but I think the only branches the wolves have a problem with are ordo mallius and heriticus, they do provide marines to the deathwatch so they could very well have less of a problem with them.
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Just thinking more about this, but I think the only branches the wolves have a problem with are ordo mallius and heriticus, they do provide marines to the deathwatch so they could very well have less of a problem with them.
An Inquisitor's remit does not solely lie within the his ordo specialism. Just look at Eisenhorn. He was Ordo Xenos, but spent centuries fighting heretics and demons.

So if a Xenos Inquisitor sees something in the SWs he doesn't like, he's not really going to hold back just because they contribute to the DW.
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An Inquisitor's remit does not solely lie within the his ordo specialism. Just look at Eisenhorn. He was Ordo Xenos, but spent centuries fighting heretics and demons.

So if a Xenos Inquisitor sees something in the SWs he doesn't like, he's not really going to hold back just because they contribute to the DW.
Keep in mind that most inquisitors are pragmatic enough to realize that going against the wolves is a bad idea.

Even in the emperors gift most of the other inquisitors didn't agree with the head one.
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I thought they somewhere in fluff were advised to say please when it came to the Adeptus Mechanicus and Adeptus Asartes as both are rather prideful organizations. I would also poffer that advice about the Navigator Houses as great calamity could follow not being polite to them, I mean I rather not have a rather pissed off Navigator on my hands.

Of course the Inquisitors that does as they please along with commissars who are too strict dies very early according to Ciaphas Cain. I can't remember the exact line of quote, but comeon its Ciaphas Cain.

My story about the commissars Zachary Carrus and Michelle Ionza and their life and crimes https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/...d.php?t=123690

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Keep in mind that most inquisitors are pragmatic enough to realize that going against the wolves is a bad idea.

Even in the emperors gift most of the other inquisitors didn't agree with the head one.
Didn't agree with him is one way of saying it. Forming a plot to kill him would be another!
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The relationship with any organization within the Imperium is very confusing. None of the Adeptus are very united. The most united one would be the Mechanicus or perhaps the Arbites. This also goes for the Inquisition who, in my opinion, is the most disorganized one.

So Astartes Chapters may have more moral high-ground to stand on by opposing a single (or group) of inquisitors and may not actually be classified as opposing the entire Holy Order.
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The Celestial Lions went up against the Inquisitors before the war of Armageddon and did not get away with questioning the Imperial Inquisition. But they have all the hallmarks of being too stupid to live as they kept pressing the issue. If I recall correctly it was alluded that the High Lords of Terra even has a hand in their continuing demise (I'm phrasing it in this way as they are not quite dead yet), so yeah the Inquisition rules supreme, but knows to thread carefully in general around Space Marines.

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Dark Angel's literally have killed off multiple Inquisitors and their ships as well as high ranked Guard officials just to keep their secrets.

Also here is another question who has higher authority Ordo Maleus Inquisitor or a ranked Grey Knight ?
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The Grey Knights are subservient to the Inquisition more so than the other Chapters.

The Dark Angels only killed lone inquisitors without anyone watching. I doubt they'd want to do so out in the open.
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The Grey Knights are subservient to the Inquisition more so than the other Chapters.

The Dark Angels only killed lone inquisitors without anyone watching. I doubt they'd want to do so out in the open.
Well it just feels like a Grey Knight Grand Master should and would out class and out smart any Maleus Inquisitor. I mean to be the best among the best definitely puts one in another league even compared to Inquisition. I can't even begin to imagine Draigo taking orders from a lowly human.

Also you should read Trials of Azrael short story.
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