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Logan Grimnar struck when at a parlay then teleported away. That's not meeting someone in a honorable duel thats like one of you saying I surrender to me and then you kill me coming to me to surrender.

As for the background the Grey Knights had destroyed one or more SW-vessels after the First War of Armageddon so Grimnar was naturally not a very happy man as all he wanted to talk about during the parlay was who ordered the shots fired. He got his answer, struck then teleported away, and if memory serves he came alone.

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and if memory serves he came alone.
Read The Emperor's Gift. He took a WG retinue with him.
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I think the Emperor would disagree with you on the 'nothing more' part... and a whole bunch of Greater Daemons who have been banished back to the Warp

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I think the Emperor would disagree with you on the 'nothing more' part... and a whole bunch of Greater Daemons who have been banished back to the Warp
The Emperor barely knew they existed, and considering they were Malcador's creation, the Emperor shouldn't get any credit for them.

The only area in which they excel over normal SMs is when fighting demons. That said, normal marines aren't too shabby at that either. There is no evidence that man for man they are any better, stronger or faster than your common-or-garden Ultramarine or Imperial Fist.
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Read The Emperor's Gift. He took a WG retinue with him.
EDIT: I do not stand corrected. We were referring to two different events. You were referring to when LG slayed Inquisitor Lord Kysnaros. i were referring to when he slayed GK Grand Master Joros. Two different occasions.

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I do not stand corrected. We were referring to two different events. You were referring to when LG slayed Inquisitor Lord Kysnaros. i were referring to when he slayed GK Grand Master Joros. Two different occasions.
You do stand corrected.

"Grimnar smiled, showing old teeth in a nasty grin. ‘You violated an armistice, killed thousands of my Chapter’s servants, and now name us oathbreakers when you – as always – fired first.’
He looked back over his shoulder to his three remaining Wolf Guard. ‘This is why we so rarely speak to outlanders, eh? No manners.’"

This is when the armistice was betrayed and when Logan slew Joros.
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You do stand corrected.

"Grimnar smiled, showing old teeth in a nasty grin. ‘You violated an armistice, killed thousands of my Chapter’s servants, and now name us oathbreakers when you – as always – fired first.’
He looked back over his shoulder to his three remaining Wolf Guard. ‘This is why we so rarely speak to outlanders, eh? No manners.’"

This is when the armistice was betrayed and when Logan slew Joros.
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Yeah he had three with him, just read up the fluff. Good quote as well.

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Where could I find this story within BL fluff? It seems like a nice piece.
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Where could I find this story within BL fluff? It seems like a nice piece.
The Emperor's Gift by ADB.
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