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post #41 of 52 (permalink) Old 07-04-14, 11:11 PM
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and the third is that he was terrified of fighting Angron.
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In ravens flight he never states that he is terrified of fighting Angron,
Ah, so that's just you reading between the lines again.
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Ah, so that's just you reading between the lines again.
It is very easy to see that Corax was terrified of facing Angron himself, he stated very clearly that he was afraid to fight Angron because he knew he would die.
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It is very easy to see that Corax was terrified of facing Angron himself, he stated very clearly that he was afraid to fight Angron because he knew he would die.
It is not very easy to see. He did not state he was afraid to fight him. He just knew he couldn't win. He may have known it would be a lost cause, but I don't think primarchs are capable of fear.
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It is not very easy to see. He did not state he was afraid to fight him. He just knew he couldn't win. He may have known it would be a lost cause, but I don't think primarchs are capable of fear.
That is not true, in the Dark King audio book Curze says "Guilliman was wrong when he said that primarchs know no fear, they do and it is lightning in the marrow of the bones."

Dorn as well as Corax both admit they fear Curze for different reasons, primarchs do feel fear as do astartes.
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What Dorn or Corax feel about Curze has no bearing on what Corax feels about Angron. You are taking quotes from one source to prove a point in a completely different story. The fact is he did not state he was afraid, he just admitted he'd lose. Honesty does not denote fear. If you infer something from this, that does not make it fact, as much as you'd like it to.

As for the Curze quote about fear, it was a statement of opinion by Curze, the most psychologically unstable of all the primarchs, not a statement of fact as part of the narrative.
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What Dorn or Corax feel about Curze has no bearing on what Corax feels about Angron. You are taking quotes from one source to prove a point in a completely different story. The fact is he did not state he was afraid, he just admitted he'd lose. Honesty does not denote fear. If you infer something from this, that does not make it fact, as much as you'd like it to.

As for the Curze quote about fear, it was a statement of opinion by Curze, the most psychologically unstable of all the primarchs, not a statement of fact as part of the narrative.
Curze was the primarch that was the most in touch with reality, and he was the only one who saw the truth of the reality they all lived in. Every other primarch was blind as well as disillusioned with the concept of hope, salvation, and bringing peace.

Curze's opinion holds the most weight when it comes to understanding fear, reality, and the truth of the warhammer 40k universe.
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Curze's opinion holds the most weight when it comes to understanding fear, reality, and the truth of the warhammer 40k universe.
In your mind yes, in other peoples (who don't have a raging hard on for him) his opinion doesn't have as much.
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In your mind yes, in other peoples (who don't have a raging hard on for him) his opinion doesn't have as much.
Well said that man. It must have been the late hour and few beers that made me jump into a Lux thread about Curze. In the cold light of day I realise what a fruitless, pointless thing that is to do.
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I think Curze would come out on top in a 1v1 because he is very capable of killing a primarch both physically and mentally (ask Vulkan: oh wait, you can't!) It's very close to call, but Curze would sneak up on Corax and maul him.

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I think Curze would come out on top in a 1v1 because he is very capable of killing a primarch both physically and mentally (ask Vulkan: oh wait, you can't!) It's very close to call, but Curze would sneak up on Corax and maul him.
I don't think so.

It's quite a tough call. If Corax can have the initiative and sneak Curze, then Curze is dead. But if Curze can play on the moral of Corax, he can have a fair shot on Corax and kill him.

But on Istvaan, Curze had a gold opening, and Corax flew away and escape him anyway.

In every fight he fought, Curze never fought fairly. His most impressive feat was when he lured Guilliman and the Lion and almost win. Yet, his main attack don't resided in his fighting skill but in a trap he setted before the fight.

The problem is, Corax doesn't fight fairly. They are like Gork and Mork : the god of brutal cunning against the god of cunning brutality.
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