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Does it strike anyone as odd how the chaos gods are completely predictable? Nurgle gives diseases, Khorne hits you with an axe, Slanesh corrupts you and Tzeench mutates you. They never do anything outside their pattern. Even chaos undivided doesn't switch between plans of the four gods it just fights for what they have in common. Are they just called chaos because they don't agree with the eldar or imperium on what 'order' is? (Eldar and the imperium being the ones who know them as 'chaos')
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In one of Dan Abnett's novels there is a reference to "chaos" planets being not too dissimilar to Imperial ones


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Chaos is not just about the four gods. Chaos is what happens if they win. Chaos is the warp. You might think they are predictable in their pattern, but they are chaotic inside this pattern. moreover they have no intelligible plan for mortals, bare one: to bring the warp realm into reality. then i guess we could learn the true meaning of chaos!!

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I've always thought of it in relation to the Materium, which has laws of physics and consistent patters of how time and matter relate to each other... until a writer needs a new plot tool, of course. I consider the Necrons to be one of the ultimate avatars of 'law', in the Michael Moorcock sense of law and chaos, in that they're immutable and follow these strictures even when not in their own best interest... possibly driven by their absolute lack of connection to the warp.

The Warp (powers), on the other hand, bends and turns back on itself in both form and function, and time and space... being bent to the will of whatever being has the greatest power to do so.

Also, keep in mind that the concepts of law and chaos were not meant to be mutually exclusive, but more of the yin and yang, constantly blending into each other despite their opposition.

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In all honesty they are labelled as Choas because of the negative conotation that the term brings to the agents of "Choas." Choas is what they use to define the dangerous, unknown, mysterious, and deadly enemy that wishes death upon the Imperium and all of Mankind. Choas is what happens when evil takes iover and runs the show.....in essence.



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In all honesty they are labelled as Choas because of the negative conotation that the term brings to the agents of "Choas." Choas is what they use to define the dangerous, unknown, mysterious, and deadly enemy that wishes death upon the Imperium and all of Mankind. Choas is what happens when evil takes iover and runs the show.....in essence.
Normally I'm not one pointing out spelling mistakes, but it is VERY impressive how you have spelled Chaos wrong in every single instance in that post
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Choas is stronger than your palsy "chaos"!! Convert now to choas!!! :p

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Choas is stronger than your paltry "chaos"!! Convert now to choas!!! :p
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This my friend, is pure Chaos! Or Choas...
Also, i was thinking about the OP...how comes that Tzeentch follows a pattern...or nurgle or khorne or slaanesh...they seek something peculiar but in a totally unpredictable way. There is nothing a slaaneshi would not do to reach a new peak of pleasure or self satisfaction. khorne follower will rampage everywhere, maiming and killing and inspiring terrible act of death, while nurgle will just spread wanton corruption and decay...tzeentch..let him alone, he is headache causing

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I would hazard a guess that the real reason chaos seems so ordered is the whole chaos thing was probably just a work around to include devil,satanism,and other worldly horror in the game without simply coping other games or preexisting trademarked pieces of fiction. Not to mention it probably gives them a certain level of separation from religious myths and icons.

This is the most reasonable explanation I can think of why GW introduced something that is supposed to represent entropy and disorder in its most pure form and simply have it behave like every other slavering horde of devils.


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Two Slaanesh daemons on the first go...hmm I guess the fates have spoken emperors children here I come
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