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1. Thus are you saying 'Alpha Legion's conquest pace par each worlds and systems are slower than most Legion, but given macroscopic perspective, they might conquest more swift than most of Legions'?
Correct. Mostly because they can spread themselves thinner while still accomplishing their goals.

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Thus I think IAs have virtually no value as valid source material.
That's your prerogative. Seems a little odd to discard fluff on a whim...particularly when newer fluff does not contradict it. Where do you draw the line? A year? 2? 5? 10?

Horus Rising came out over 8 years ago. Is it time to shelve it soon?


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These are your intrinsic way of speech or sincere advise/sorry/regret/concern? If not, are you merely being sarcastic and make innuendos from start to finish?
Just like the rest of humanity, hard to paint with such broad strokes. Usually I'm pretty sincere. Takes a bit to piss me off and get me sarcastic.
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Correct. Mostly because they can spread themselves thinner while still accomplishing their goals.



That's your prerogative. Seems a little odd to discard fluff on a whim...particularly when newer fluff does not contradict it. Where do you draw the line? A year? 2? 5? 10?

Horus Rising came out over 8 years ago. Is it time to shelve it soon?




Just like the rest of humanity, hard to paint with such broad strokes. Usually I'm pretty sincere. Takes a bit to piss me off and get me sarcastic.
1. My Prerogative? Perhaps. But you are also. Horus Rising is one of HH series and incipience of Horus Heresy, and this is quite different from case of other books, such as Codex. Compare IA and HH books. Whereas Codex is maintaining innate consistency, but two books are so different it seems almost like alien.

2. Oh, so I makes you angry almost from the beginning because of my opinion about capability of Alpha Legion? Quite interesting. If so, why?

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If so, why?
Never said I was pissed. And I'm not.

Interesting conclusion on your part, though.
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I pretend that book didn't happen. Or that it was some super elaborate Alpha Legion plan that has yet to bear fruit.

It helps me sleep at night.
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But it did, it definitely did...
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But it did, it definitely did...
No, no...it couldn't have. It's in Imperial records, true, but it was planted by an Alpha Legion agent to make the Imperium underestimate the Alpha Legion. It made the Alpha Legion look like a bunch of generic, retarded bad guys. Lulls them into thinking the Alpha Legion is retarded.

The Long Game, you see? Yeah?
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No, no...it couldn't have. It's in Imperial records, true, but it was planted by an Alpha Legion agent to make the Imperium underestimate the Alpha Legion. It made the Alpha Legion look like a bunch of generic, retarded bad guys. Lulls them into thinking the Alpha Legion is retarded.

The Long Game, you see? Yeah?
I like this justification.



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I do love how we don't even need CotE to comment anymore, chances are he has already said something intelligent before that can be re-applied to the current situation.
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I'm skeptical about Alpha Legion abilities. I think in order for the Alpha Legion to really be perceived as it is, it would have to have some kind of fail safe self defensive from exposing its own self.

I mean if you think of it this way, theres no objective to the Alpha Legion but to look cool. Does that really attract the right candidates for the Alpha Legion's services.
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it would have to have some kind of fail safe self defensive from exposing its own self.
What do you mean precisely? I know the Legion is highly compartmentalized and has a very flat hierarchy.

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theres no objective to the Alpha Legion but to look cool.
Nah, they're results first and looks second (albeit a very, very close second). Page 87 of Extermination goes into detail about how they selected potential legionaries.

Most interesting, I think, is how they grouped aspirants into groups to tackle whatever task. And either the group succeeded or it failed.
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