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Yeah I think Lucas beat GW by a decade on that one.
Good point, i see the wisdom in such a thing.

However here's my next question for you guys. With the Astra Militarum (or Space Military) the new Guard Codex what does that make the Tempestus? Is that a Supplemental Codex or an actual Army (like the Sororitas and Astartes)?



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I believe the Imperial Guard is a historic name used by Napoleon for his elite units.
Damn near everyone has had an 'Imperial Guard', Russia, India, Japan, France, France again, Byzantine had what 4, that's not even the spear point.
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Good point, i see the wisdom in such a thing.

However here's my next question for you guys. With the Astra Militarum (or Space Military) the new Guard Codex what does that make the Tempestus? Is that a Supplemental Codex or an actual Army (like the Sororitas and Astartes)?
I suppose you could see the Tempestus as the Codex: stormtroopers/ Schola Progenium
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Me. They're overcosted point sinks.

When will GW learn to equate good rules = good sales?
I meant fluff wise. It was a hard to kill a flak armor Ogryn, now they wear discarded leman russ tracks. Bye bye chaos marines :D

As for Scions, I think they pretty much replaced regular stormtroopers. Not sure about Kaskrins though.
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I suppose you could see the Tempestus as the Codex: stormtroopers/ Schola Progenium
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Damn near everyone has had an 'Imperial Guard', Russia, India, Japan, France, France again, Byzantine had what 4, that's not even the spear point.
...Sigh. The point was that its an already established historical entity and therefore couldn't be copyrighted by Games Workshop. But yes, thank you for pointing those out.


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the point was to compare it with pre excisting terms from before the name changes. not litterly translate militarum tempestus.
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Curious. How will this translate into current novels?

Will things remain Imperial Guard in 40k, with just the Codices and models themselves being copyrighted with the new name, or?

For example: will we read any series that contains a book 1 that might just mention the Imperial Guard and the 2nd references the 'official' name as an add-on?
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Given that the term Imperial Guard is still used in the codex it's likely the novels will continue to use it too, at least in the text themselves, Astra Militarum is a clunky phrase.

I imagine the Imperial Guard novels will be marketed as Astra Militarum novels, and categorized as such by the Black Library but in the prose, the term Imperial Guard will remain.

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Given that the term Imperial Guard is still used in the codex it's likely the novels will continue to use it too, at least in the text themselves, Astra Militarum is a clunky phrase.

I imagine the Imperial Guard novels will be marketed as Astra Militarum novels, and categorized as such by the Black Library but in the prose, the term Imperial Guard will remain.
It's a 80s poorly made for tv movie name, "Oh no Bob it's the Space Military, we must run through this tunnel while they fire terrible CGI lasers at us."
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