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Default Eldar's view of the God Emperor of Mankind

Given their arrogant nature and their belief of humans being lesser mortals/animals, are there any direct references about eldar viewpoint on the ruler of mankind? ( Especially from bl novels?)


We know that demons and chaos gods are to some point terrified of Emperor and his psychic power, but what about the Eldar? Surely it wouldn't escape their attention? Or would they just deny a mon-keigh would ever be able to possess such a power?
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The Farseer in Legion, who's a member of the Cabal no less, acknowledges the Emperor is the only member of humanity who would be considered for membership in the directors of the organization due to his psyker skills and his 'long sight' for galactic development.

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The Farseer in Legion, who's a member of the Cabal no less, acknowledges the Emperor is the only member of humanity who would be considered for membership in the directors of the organization due to his psyker skills and his 'long sight' for galactic development.
Which is silly because he is on a different league than them. Someone beneath Malcador by several magnitudes would be a worthwhile candidate for the Cabal.
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I'm guessing they'd view him as a typical specimen of the human race--violent in the extreme without an ounce of grace.

He crafted one of the (if not most) powerful human empires in history by strength of arms.

His psychic might and overwhelming intellect probably don't mean much to them. A human is a human is a human.
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Which is silly because he is on a different league than them. Someone beneath Malcador by several magnitudes would be a worthwhile candidate for the Cabal.
They certainly did manage to assist in the 'self fulfilling prophecy' department. I've often wondered if foresight of the Cabal's meddling was one of the reasons for the Emperor's edict against Xenos.

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I've often wondered if foresight of the Cabal's meddling was one of the reasons for the Emperor's edict against Xenos.
I have to disagree Over Two Meters Tall!! This edict was probably dealing more to do with humanities inate fear of the unkonwn; and those that differ from them. We have racism because people of one color do not trust people of another color on the basis they do not look (and sometimes act) like them. We have ethnicists who are afraid of another type of people based on their Historical Backround/Geographical positioning. Then we have just plain old fear of the other guy across the border who may come and take all that you have built/borrowed/beaten.

The Emporer, forseeing this, probably decreed Xeno's outlawed because humanity would be unable to accept them into the Imperium. Plus the dangerous idea's they could spawn probably scared the High Lords of Terra; thus causing them to enact certain measures after the Emporer faded from view.

While I have not read all the horus Heresy books yet i have yet to see any substantial involvement by the Eldar in the shaping of early Imperial history. Anyone know anything on this matter?



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Eldrad has called the Emperor "weakling seer" our "corpse of a seer" who's arrogance shielded him from the truth when the eldar tried to warn him of Horus betrayal.

For a human to be called a seer might be concidered a compliment. But from the above I think even the greatest human psyker is to the eldar nothing more than a child that has found his fathers gun.

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They certainly did manage to assist in the 'self fulfilling prophecy' department. I've often wondered if foresight of the Cabal's meddling was one of the reasons for the Emperor's edict against Xenos.
It's because various races preyed on humanity during the Age of Strife even former allies.

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Eldrad has called the Emperor "weakling seer" our "corpse of a seer" who's arrogance shielded him from the truth when the eldar tried to warn him of Horus betrayal.

For a human to be called a seer might be concidered a compliment. But from the above I think even the greatest human psyker is to the eldar nothing more than a child that has found his fathers gun.
And yet the Eldar, by far the most potent psyker race, have no one that can equal the Emperor's psychic might not even Eldrad by the looks of it.
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And yet the Eldar, by far the most potent psyker race, have no one that can equal the Emperor's psychic might not even Eldrad by the looks of it.
Still a man who knows how to use his knife is more powerful than he who don't know how to use his rifle. I think it comes down to how you measure might. The eldar unconstrait led them to the Fall and the Emperor's led to the Heresy. But who has learnt most from their misstakes?

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Eldrad has called the Emperor "weakling seer" our "corpse of a seer" who's arrogance shielded him from the truth when the eldar tried to warn him of Horus betrayal.

For a human to be called a seer might be concidered a compliment. But from the above I think even the greatest human psyker is to the eldar nothing more than a child that has found his fathers gun.
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Still a man who knows how to use his knife is more powerful than he who don't know how to use his rifle. I think it comes down to how you measure might. The eldar unconstrait led them to the Fall and the Emperor's led to the Heresy. But who has learnt most from their misstakes?
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Seriously Broadsword to a Scalpel. Eldar IMo are far more skilled Psykers, where the Emperor was a massive brute of a Psychic force.

The Emp could be seen as a WW2 Tank. Great Defense, and offense. Eldrad a WW2 Grunt with his Rifle and Grenade. A Tank can kill hundreds of these guys sure, but one of these guys can and have taken out said tanks if they were skilled enough.

Not the best analogy, but one that comes to mind. The Emp was a powerhouse who was all about blunt showings of power. Eldar are not.

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