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Maybe I should rename this not where he ranks, but rather, what level is he on.

Im trying to grasp by feats and fluff where he stands specifically.
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You think Malcador rates higher than say Logar after his Chaos endeavors?
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The problem with ranking of psykers is that the most common to appear in novels are alpha +, which makes the highest rank too common and not that special. So to call Malcadore being an alpha plus ranks him together with random cultists in any Dan-book. No I would put them far beyond that list.
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The only explicit feat I can think of for Malcador is when he did that psychic shout that could be heard by anyone in a 10km radius, in The First Heretic. And in Flight of the Eisenstein his presence unnerved/upset that one Silent Sister who came with Garro and Cruze (to the point she was trying to back away from him IIRC). And he was still able to use his psychic abilities just fine in her presence. Generally, only the absolute most powerful psykers can override a blank's null field and affect them in the manner they usually affect psykers.

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Experience can match raw power at times.


This captures it perfectly, or as has been said, "old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." I think Malcador is the Regent due to not only his strength, which as many have noted is at the top, but still in question in absolute comparable wattage. On the other hand, he effectively runs the Imperium and makes it look easy because his combined intelligence and experience allow him to achieve his purposes without pulling out his crushing psyker abilities every time he encounters adversity. I think the Shrouding of Titan is proof that his skills of sorcery outmatch any contemporary at the time, save for possibly the Emperor.

My one caveat is if you're comparing Ahriman of 40K with Malcador of 30K, then Ahriman may have gained enough knowledge during the ensuing 10 Millennia to make it a real contest.

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The only explicit feat I can think of for Malcador is when he did that psychic shout that could be heard by anyone in a 10km radius, in The First Heretic. And in Flight of the Eisenstein his presence unnerved/upset that one Silent Sister who came with Garro and Cruze (to the point she was trying to back away from him IIRC). And he was still able to use his psychic abilities just fine in her presence. Generally, only the absolute most powerful psykers can override a blank's null field and affect them in the manner they usually affect psykers.
Awesome list of feats. Thanks.
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Getting bitchslapped by Lorgar and still get up to use your inner voice thingy was enough for me. Oh and he levitated his staff back into his hand if I recall correctly.
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Malcador

At least for humans
Two of those aren't really humans.


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