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Before I begin in responding to posts here I would like to say this is a relatively unexplored area of Warhammer 40k that deserves for attention. Not only for the sake of novels and Fluff but also because they contribute a key resource to the Imperium of Man; Manpower! In regards to the Imperium I feel they just need soldiers for their war machine, and wouldn't sweet the small stuff. However the Commissars might create a problem since they are aso strict on the R&R.

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The Guard isn't exactly adverse to stepping on some toes (or necks!) to get their way.
No but sadly they feel they must play the Political game to keep favor with PDF, and also to build the Reputation of Guard commanders for career purposes.

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I thought that the Munitorum or Administratum would enforce some kind of armor or uniform standard on feral and feudal regiments,
Unless it affects the Kill/Death ratio or drastically reduces their fighting ability the Munitorum would not touch anything. Again the Commissiarat might have a thing or two to say but it really would fall to the Unit's Commander for such a decision. Feral worlds would probably keep trophies and keepsakes; Uniform would only be altered by Fuedal worlds once the hand of the Imperium had been established for some time.

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I feel like I'm answering my own question in a sense here, but would they be slapped with the same Flak armor and M35 M-Galaxy pattern lasgun that almost every other regiment receives or seems to receive, or is there an amount of leeway involved?
Probably, but if the soldier shows his adeptness at another weapon they may change that. I have only really heard of the Ratling Rifle and the blow Gun from the Tanith First and Only as exotic weapons origionating from Feral/Fuedal worlds.

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How would a feral regiment handle tanks and other vehicles, and what kind of vehicles might be available to them, if any?
The months/years of training would drill that out of them; you don't give humans enuogh credit for their ability to adpat to new enviroments my freind. As far as tanks and vehicles are concerned I'm sure it would take awhile for them to learn how to operate/fight them. The Feral's would be the worst, as the Language/Communication barrier would be the worst.



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So do the guard ever use psycho-indoctrination for IG units en masse? Not just one or two specific regiments, but as a general training tool? Even a light version would help the transition over to the IG, especially for the folks you're mentioning, having grown up in extreme environments.

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So do the guard ever use psycho-indoctrination for IG units en masse? Not just one or two specific regiments, but as a general training tool? Even a light version would help the transition over to the IG, especially for the folks you're mentioning, having grown up in extreme environments.
I've never heard of them doing it for an entire regiment, outside of home fluff.
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No but sadly they feel they must play the Political game to keep favor with PDF, and also to build the Reputation of Guard commanders for career purposes.
Since when does the Commissariat care about the PDF? The PDF is on the bottom of the totem pole.

Plus Commissars are only attached to the Imperial Guard and Navy.

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Blow gun? Maybe you're thinking of the reynbow O_o?
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Since when does the Commissariat care about the PDF? The PDF is on the bottom of the totem pole.

Plus Commissars are only attached to the Imperial Guard and Navy.
Unless your name is Marius Hax, in which case you have the Chaliced Commissariat policing your PDF (Inquisitor's Handbook, pg. 60). Still, your point stands, and the Chaliced Commissariat has had at least one run-in with the actual Commissariat...

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Since when does the Commissariat care about the PDF? The PDF is on the bottom of the totem pole.
I must disagree, and in more than one novel I've read of Commissars among the PDF ranks to kieep moral up. My understand is that it varies planet to planet, like the National Guard differs state to state here in the U.S. For long standing planets like Cadia, Nostrya, Catachan, Vallhalla, Krieg the tradition of having Commissars injected into PDF forces is quite common. The reason being is that many of these troops go on to serve in the Guard, and their units trained on PDF level for just that expressed reason.

Vervun Hive had one, I beleive Cain encountered a "Retired" Commissar that came back to service to fight for his planet. In numerous novels involving Cadia I've noted references to PDF Commissars being to stringent with the rules.



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I must disagree, and in more than one novel I've read of Commissars among the PDF ranks to kieep moral up.
Only insofar as leading them in battle. For training purposes? No.

Also there's a difference between Imperial Commissars and plantary bodies that create commissariat-like bodies.

In Necropolis a local commissariat tries to try some Imperial Guardsman, but Gaunt tells them to screw off:

"Imperial Commissariat edict 437b states that any activity concerning the disipline of the Imperial Guardsmen must be conducted by the Imperial Commissariat itself. Not by planetary bodies."

The Commissariat is separate and above the Guard (which itself is set above the PDF). The Commissariat doesn't't have to play nice.
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"Imperial Commissariat edict 437b states that any activity concerning the disipline of the Imperial Guardsmen must be conducted by the Imperial Commissariat itself. Not by planetary bodies."
Argh you've got me, this is true. i would still argue a Commissar is a Commissar but since they are not of an "Imperial" level it would be irrelevant. Like State and Federal SWAT teams :p



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