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So o dont get I realise that the imperium uses the emperor's/ primarchs DNA to make them, but what about just plain genetics and armour. For example tau have battle suits but why not try make something as powerful and tough armor and give them standardised better fire warrior armour. The same goes for eldar and the like. Why no similar alien space marines

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The Eldar would probably find such things abhorrent.

As for the Tau etc, I have no idea


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So o dont get I realise that the imperium uses the emperor's/ primarchs DNA to make them, but what about just plain genetics and armour. For example tau have battle suits but why not try make something as powerful and tough armor and give them standardised better fire warrior armour. The same goes for eldar and the like. Why no similar alien space marines
The tau are advanced in some areas and still gaining grounds in other, the closest the tau have got to standard power armor is shadowsun's armor, which is still in the alpha stage of testing. The experimental pilot suit is kind of like the black carapace but for tanks.

Like tawa said Eldar are to stuck up to care.
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The Imperium has billions upon billions of soldiers. To equip each or even a majority would be astronomically costly.

The Imperial Guard's main strength is their numbers coupled with their discipline.

If you want a logical answer as to why the Eldar for example don't make up their own equivalent of the Imperium's primarchs/space-marines, you won't get one.

Lore wise there are multiple reasons primarily their beliefs and mentality. Plus they don't really need equivalents.

The Tau are still a fledgling race and so their grasp on DNA is not even close to the Imperium. They haven't had an impetus as well to develop superhuman warriors like humanity did during the Age of Strife/Great Crusade.
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The kroot do, in so much as they alter their DNA to adapt to a particular role on the battlefield. Maybe kroot marines will one day conquer the galaxy?

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The kroot do, in so much as they alter their DNA to adapt to a particular role on the battlefield. Maybe kroot marines will one day conquer the galaxy?
I would love to see a kroot 'marine'.
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Just in seem strange that Tau are so far a head in tech in comparison with the imperium but far behind in terms of DNA. I thought that would be something would take great interest in. As for eldar i know they're stuck up, sure i play them as my main army but if you take biel tan for example are always looking for an extra advantage in combat so they once again become powerful. Its not like they dont have the tech and im sure they could make some more graceful version then the imperium.

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The Imperium has billions upon billions of soldiers. To equip each or even a majority would be astronomically costly.

The Imperial Guard's main strength is their numbers coupled with their discipline.

If you want a logical answer as to why the Eldar for example don't make up their own equivalent of the Imperium's primarchs/space-marines, you won't get one.

Lore wise there are multiple reasons primarily their beliefs and mentality. Plus they don't really need equivalents.

The Tau are still a fledgling race and so their grasp on DNA is not even close to the Imperium. They haven't had an impetus as well to develop superhuman warriors like humanity did during the Age of Strife/Great Crusade.
I understand why the imperial guard cant but i mean more on the alien side of things. It's not like they havn't had a chance to look inside or anything.

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Wraithguard are basically Eldar space marines. They put them in specially designed bodies that are stronger, tougher and better armored.
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You mean Dreadnoughts.

@Irish: the Tau are not tech. superior to the Imperium. Just in some aspects.
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