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on another note as I mentioned. Jupiter is a gas giant, wich probably means that any attempts at sensor scanning anywhere near the planet, would be interfered by radiation of different kinds
Titan orbits Saturn.


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Reading the thread title just gave me the image of Malc stood in front of a Warhound going "There's no titan's here!"
Had he done so, would you have doubted him? It is Malcador after all.


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Titan orbits Saturn.
that was completely my mistake xd thanks for noticing!
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Had he done so, would you have doubted him? It is Malcador after all.
Of course not.

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Clearly Titan, at the time iof the Heresy, was a "Black Ops" project of the Imperium and the Emporer himself. No one knew aboutm, including Horus, and every few people had access to it. Additionally Malcador, probably the great psyker of the time, second only to the Emporer himself, was using some type of latent abilities to camoflague this project from both public and private eye. So when the Origional Warriors arrive to find a fully stocked fortress-monastary(practice a full-seized fortress city in it's own right), it was quite the feat. As Lexicanum state........

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Titan, through Malcador's mystical means, had been hidden away from the ravages of the Horus Heresy. When they arrived they found a Fortress-monastery already fully prepared and stocked with everything necessary to create a new army of Space Marines including supplies of gene-seed, which is suspected to have been taken from the Emperor directly, and all the necessary armaments. The fortress was also already populated with hundreds upon hundreds of suitable recruits from across the Galaxy. Some were raw and untrained, whilst others were selected in secret from among the ranks of loyalist Legions.
Therefore I only have two question. First why did Malcador go to such lengths to hide this Fortress from all knowledge? Daemonic Hunters or not, Emporer's command or not, it was one of hundreds of black projects they had. Why so different, what makes them special? Secondly how did they manage to keep such a fully operation center completely hidden from the naked eye?



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Clearly Titan, at the time iof the Heresy, was a "Black Ops" project of the Imperium and the Emporer himself. No one knew aboutm, including Horus, and every few people had access to it. Additionally Malcador, probably the great psyker of the time, second only to the Emporer himself, was using some type of latent abilities to camoflague this project from both public and private eye. So when the Origional Warriors arrive to find a fully stocked fortress-monastary(practice a full-seized fortress city in it's own right), it was quite the feat. As Lexicanum state........



Therefore I only have two question. First why did Malcador go to such lengths to hide this Fortress from all knowledge? Daemonic Hunters or not, Emporer's command or not, it was one of hundreds of black projects they had. Why so different, what makes them special? Secondly how did they manage to keep such a fully operation center completely hidden from the naked eye?
Perhaps there's more to the story than meets the eye?

There's enough reason to believe the grey knights were malacador's pet project. Perhaps he intended for them to fight the warp tear. But when the emperor was killed they were re purposed.
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Therefore I only have two question. First why did Malcador go to such lengths to hide this Fortress from all knowledge? Daemonic Hunters or not, Emporer's command or not, it was one of hundreds of black projects they had. Why so different, what makes them special?
Because the Grey Knights were intended to be the one thing that was capable of defending the Imperium from the daemonic when the Emperor was gone. The rise of the Grey Knights was seen as critically important to the survival of the Imperium:

"As Horus' final campaign began, the Emperor foresaw that the end of the Heresy would cost him greatly, so much so that he would no longer be able to take an active hand in Mankind's survival - if he even survived at all. Yet he also knew that the threat of Chaos would not see defeat with Horus, but would continue to haunt humanity. Who then would defend Mankind against the Chaos Gods and their daemons?" - Codex: Grey Knights.

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Secondly how did they manage to keep such a fully operation center completely hidden from the naked eye?
"Through sorcerous means, the Sigillite had long ago shielded the moon from the sight and deeds of loyalists and traitors alike... [the prepared Fortress Monastery was] prepared under a shield of illusion... Before leaving Titan for the final time, Malcador forged one last enchantment, greater than any that had come before it. Titan vanished completely from its orbit, hidden from Horus in the most unlikely of refuges - Malcador had anchored it amongst the tides of the Warp. Protected by Macro-Geller fields and sigilic rites of Malcador's own devising. Titan rode out the tumult of the Warp whilst the rest of the galaxy endured through the last months of the Horus Heresy and the tragedy of the Emperor's final battle." - Codex: Grey Knights.



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Reading the thread title just gave me the image of Malc stood in front of a Warhound going "There's no titan's here!"
Wouldn't that be Creed?

Anyway, I would have hidden Terra instead...just imagine the lulz as the Horus fleet reached the orbit...
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Protected by Macro-Geller fields and sigilic rites of Malcador's own devising. Titan rode out the tumult of the Warp whilst the rest of the galaxy endured through the last months of the Horus Heresy and the tragedy of the Emperor's final battle."
That is quite a feat, especially if they managed to create Gellar fields aroudn the entire planet. Is that even possible? Why have they not recreated this technology over and try it again. Sorcerer or not Malcador, unlike the Emporer, realized his time was coming so why leave if he could have used it to his advantage?

I'd also ask if Titan is still in the Warp? Or did it come out, how long did it stay floating through the Warp?

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There's enough reason to believe the grey knights were malacador's pet project.
This is true, but they were also the Emporers pet project as well. Keep in mind the Emporer was the scientists, the Genome and DNA master, and ruler of sequencing. It was more him, than Malcador, that started this project. Malcador was just the handler the Emporer sent to keep an eye on it.



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Anyway, I would have hidden Terra instead...just imagine the lulz as the Horus fleet reached the orbit...


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Is that even possible?
Considering it actually happened, yes.

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I'd also ask if Titan is still in the Warp? Or did it come out, how long did it stay floating through the Warp?
No, Titan emerged from the warp sometime around the Second Founding when the Grey Knights subtly joined the ranks of the Adeptus Astartes as Chapter 666. Time, however, passed much slower so that by the time Titan re-emerged the Grey Knights Chapter was at full strength and fully trained.

This is all in Codex: Grey Knights btw.



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