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I'm just saying that authors are just that. Authors. You can regard of disregard their writing as you see fit yet more deranged fans would of course blast you for it.
To a certain degree but 'as you see fit' would render the enter IP nonexistent
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Even if ADB quashed that rumor he is yet just another author. Fluff is fluff pure and simple like it or dislike it as you might.
The difference is that Sevatar is AD-B's character. He's not a long established character that has been part of the background for years.



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And what's more the reference comes from The Emperor's Gift, a novel written by AD-B. So it's not like another author is 'hijacking' the character/plotline. I would have thought, having created both Sevetar and The Emperor's Gift AB-D would be in the best place to dispel rumours.

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Page 15 Gk 5th edition codex In early 901.M41, during the Battle of Kornovin, Mortarion slew Geronitan, the Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights Chapter. In his place, the Grey Knights elevated the hero Kaldor Draigo amidst the din of the battlefield and Draigo immediately vowed vengeance against the Daemon Primarch. Alone and unaided, Draigo smashed his way through Mortarion's bodyguard of Plague Marines, struck the ancient Primarch to the ground and carved Geronitan's name on the Daemon Prince's diseased heart. Though Mortarion ultimately escaped, it would be many long years before he could enter the mortal realm once more. Draigo's insult would not soon be forgotten, as the Daemon Primarch vowed his vengeance against the upstart mortal.

See and despair you mighty who fucking said it said nothing about this. Bah. There it is in all it's vileness.

Proves only one thing to me, the Matt Ward-apologists are willing to lie just to make his fluff a little less vile. Or at least overlook.
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Did you just reference/spoof Shelley's Ozymandias?
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That Audio is even more ridicules. Mortarion kills this other Grandmaster easy, but messes around Draigo? Then Draigo cuts through his uber power Death Shroud bodyguards with ease at that? By himself?
No.... just no lol
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Yeah, who'd have thought that the greatest Daemonhunter in the galaxy wearing his full anti-Daemon armour, wielding his anti-Daemon sword and chanting his Litany of Banishing would be able to kill Daemons?

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Yeah, who'd have thought that the greatest Daemonhunter in the galaxy wearing his full anti-Daemon armour, wielding his anti-Daemon sword and chanting his Litany of Banishing would be able to kill Daemons?
Mortarion is not just a Daemon. That much should be obvious.
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Mortarion is not just a Daemon. That much should be obvious.
But Draigo is not just a Daemonhunter; that should also be obvious. It's long been the case that Daemon Primarchs have the strength of Daemons, including their immortality, but they are subject to the same weaknesses, namely the difficulty in manifesting themselves in realspace for prolonged periods of time. Draigo is the Supreme Grand Master of a Chapter of Space Marines who are the premier anti-Daemon force in the Imperium, if not the galaxy. Why would he *not* be able to defeat a Daemon Primarch? If he'd killed a regular Primarch, that'd be an unrealistic feat, but a Daemon Primarch is vulnerable to all the things that Draigo is the best at, while Draigo is resistant to Daemonic attack through his mental training, discipline and wargear. In becoming Daemon Primarchs, the Primarchs made themselves hugely more powerful in some areas, but gained weaknesses to an incredibly small niche. Draigo is that niche.

This is all as far as I know - I've read some fluff on the Daemon Primarchs and the Codex entry for Draigo, but I haven't read Pandorax or Battle for the Fang or any actual novels with the capabilities of the Daemon Primarchs on display.

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But Draigo is not just a Daemonhunter;
He is a Grey Knight. Who are the best of the dameonhunters but that's all Draigo is unless you can point me to fluff that states otherwise. Mortarion on the other hand is a Daemon primarch. Only 6 exist.
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