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So, the warp is a tide of currents made up of energy, I understand that part of it, but what I don't understand is if the warp is just a tide of currents, then what exactly are the domains of the Chaos Gods? What is Draigo doing? Is he just fumbling around in these currents?

How big is the warp?
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To my understanding, the Warp is infinite for all practical purposes, in terms of both time and volume. However, unlike the physical universe, locations aren't stuck in/on/around a spatial/temporal point and can vary in both based upon whomever is perceiving the Warp. Anything more than than and I think we'd need a third eye to really understand.

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The domain of the gods are areas that an emotion tends to 'pool'/get drawin to ,think like the garbage patches in oceans, but with creatures that eat your soul. The gods 'create' these areas so that a disciple they favor won't get lost as easily. That said last ed Demon dex mentioned navigating is weird you could be walking towards location A, along with seeing it, but end up at location z, which is in the opposite direction you want.

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So, the warp is a tide of currents made up of energy, I understand that part of it, but what I don't understand is if the warp is just a tide of currents, then what exactly are the domains of the Chaos Gods?
Each god's realm (Palace of Slaanesh, Garden of Nurgle etc) is made up of the same energy that constitutes each god, so effectively the gods and their realms are one and the same thing.

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What is Draigo doing? Is he just fumbling around in these currents?
We know for certain that a mortal's mind or soul can 'enter' the warp. We also have one or two examples of a mortal (seemingly) physically entering the warp (the primary example being Draigo). The question, I suppose, is whether Draigo brings an element of reality in with him (in a similar fashion to how gellar fields work) or whether his example is a anomaly because of the curse.

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The question is moot as 'big' and 'small' are meaningless. The warp is without matter.



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To expand on what CotE was saying, the warpis a psychic realm linked to all races capable of birthing psykers and perhaps even those who don't. It "feeds" essentially on emotional currents in the materium, and the four most base emotions are what gives rise to the gods of Chaos.

Physically, the warp is nothing. It's a realm of thought and feeling and it responds to actions and events in the materium for the most part. For example, the feeling of rage and any action taken as a direct result will feed Khorne, regardless of whether the act was done in his name or not. The pursuit of knowledge or the act of deceiving feeds Tzeentch, and so on. It should be noted that worship of the Chaos gods is not required for them to feed.

In this manner, some gods might temporarily hold sway over the others. However, so long as all their base emotions remain firmly in the mortal psyche, none of them will truly be able to be killed.


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Okay, all my questions so far have been answered well, thanks.

Another question I have, I may be thinking to hard into this, but I really just want to understand it. When it says that Skarbrand hit Khorne, scratched his armor, and then Khorne punched Skarbrand and when he landed his impact created a crater in the ground. How could a non-physical demon scratch the non-physical armor of a non-physical god? Then how could Skarbrands non-physical body create a crater in a non-physical landscape?

Also, what form does a ship of the Imperium take while in the warp?
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Okay, all my questions so far have been answered well, thanks.

Another question I have, I may be thinking to hard into this, but I really just want to understand it. When it says that Skarbrand hit Khorne, scratched his armor, and then Khorne punched Skarbrand and when he landed his impact created a crater in the ground. How could a non-physical demon scratch the non-physical armor of a non-physical god? Then how could Skarbrands non-physical body create a crater in a non-physical landscape?
That story would be told from the daemon's perspective, so it would not have literally happened persay. Think of it like a metaphor. Skarbrand challenged Khorne and was ruined because of it, becoming an outcast. Screaming across the sky probably just means Khorne's rage at Skarbrand was plain for all denizens of the warp to see.

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The ship projects a gellar field, which is like taking a portion of reality into the warp with it. It also shields them from daemonic attack. Most of the time.


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Okay, all my questions so far have been answered well, thanks.

Another question I have, I may be thinking to hard into this, but I really just want to understand it. When it says that Skarbrand hit Khorne, scratched his armor, and then Khorne punched Skarbrand and when he landed his impact created a crater in the ground. How could a non-physical demon scratch the non-physical armor of a non-physical god? Then how could Skarbrands non-physical body create a crater in a non-physical landscape?
Check out this relatively short thread (particularly this, this and this post) some of these kind of questions came up there.

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Also, what form does a ship of the Imperium take while in the warp?
As Serpion said an Imperial ship which travels into the warp does so protected by a gellar field. This field projects a bubble of reality around the ship to protect it from the depredations of the warp. Thus, generally speaking, Imperial ships would appear as they normally do because they are cocooned in a bubble of reality.



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Explaining the warp to a human is like trying to explain Van Gogh's Starry Night to a worm. To understand the warp you have to imagine what jazz tastes like. You have to be able to know what the smell of purple is. The warp is chaos, everything you understand, everything you can imagine is inapplicable. Time and distance are functions of the thoughts of innumerable minds resonating with the ambient energies of gods and monsters that eat logic for breakfast.

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So, the warp is a tide of currents made up of energy, I understand that part of it, but what I don't understand is if the warp is just a tide of currents, then what exactly are the domains of the Chaos Gods?
The Warp is the raw stuff of souls. The same way water is made of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, the Warp is made of souls.

That aetheric 'matter' can be shaped by emotion and imagination into daemons, Gods, the realms of the Gods, and so on.
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