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They can be miniaturized in that the Primarchs were insulated from the Warp by box sized G fields (then again we dont know if the ones on ships differ in size)
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I couldn't find the quote that stated the strongest Daemons could bypass geller fields but I'm sure I've read it somewhere. Wait till CoTe shows up I suppose.
I don't recall anything of the sort. I'd be interested in seeing a reference though if you can find it.



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I don't recall anything of the sort. I'd be interested in seeing a reference though if you can find it.
I don't know. I think it was Ingethel who said or implied it. I control + F'ed 'geller field' in the First Heretic and I couldn't find it.
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They can be miniaturized in that the Primarchs were insulated from the Warp by box sized G fields (then again we dont know if the ones on ships differ in size)
Thats a really good point. Maybe the technology for miniature geller fields has been lost

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The Geller Field is a nice, vague, way for the Imperium to explain how exactly it can travel the Warp.

Oddly enough for all the technology lost in the 41st Millennium, of all the technology considered archaic and half-understood. The Geller Fields really seem to be one of the things the Imperium hasn't forgotten too much about. I'm sure some things are ritualized but Humanity certainly has clung to that piece with some single-mindedness.
Well, considering Star Trek pioneered with creating a 'Warp Bubble' around a ship that allowed it to pass to another dimension and travel faster than light, a "Gellar Field" doing the same thing seems right out of stock Sci Fi tradition.

I'd also question the Imperium not having forgotten too much about Gellar fields. If that was the case, then you'd think over the last 10 Millennia they would have been able to improve on them in some way, which doesn't seem to be the case. Even Astares Armor has gone through improvements since the HH, although not much. I'd say they're even regressing in their use of the Gellar Field technology, considering it was more stable and easily manipulated back in 30K.

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I would say imagine a empty room. That represents the Warp. You have no idea what it looks like, and people may tell you how it looks like and many might tell it differently. When you enter it, it forms after your imagination of emotions. You are happy, it takes the colourful happy theme.

So the Warp is just energy made of souls that are given "physical" represenation by mortal humans as it is formed from our imagination. We are bloodthirsty, and we have history on how wars are looked upon. The then represents Khorne and so forth. It's a mirror of our emotions.
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considering Star Trek pioneered with creating a 'Warp Bubble' around a ship that allowed it to pass to another dimension
That's not how star trek's warp travel works though....

To the OP, watch Event Horizon
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We know for certain that a mortal's mind or soul can 'enter' the warp. We also have one or two examples of a mortal (seemingly) physically entering the warp (the primary example being Draigo). The question, I suppose, is whether Draigo brings an element of reality in with him (in a similar fashion to how gellar fields work) or whether his example is a anomaly because of the curse.
If that is the case it begs the question of what the Warp really is. If a ship projects a wall of "Reality" around it then how does it reconnect with the propper place and time in reality? That would be my next question.

If you have ever watched Star Trek you will hvae heard of the race known as the Undine. They live in another dimension of space that is only connectable by certain Wormholes that can be connected. In a similar fashion the Domain comes through the Wormhole from their own part of the galaxy that the "Prophets" of Biajor built. In a similar fashion the warp is another dimension that is seperate from normal space and reality we live in. When a ship enters that "dimension" it gets assualted by the "currents," or material, of the Warp.

Thus a simple way to think of it is a totally different Dimension filled with horrible creatures that is directly connect with our own dimnension through emtoion and magic.



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how does it reconnect with the propper place and time in reality
With great difficulty, hence the ships that think they've been in for an hour and come out 10k years later, or that think they've been in years, and pop out immediately...
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