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So, I don't know about you, but I hate that Fulgrim is now apparently "in control" of his own body again. It ruins the tragedy of his fall for me and I hate it. However, just been reading through 'Angel Exterminatus' and this line cropped up "Fulgrim took up a heroic pose, more like an actor pretending to be him than himself". Now I haven't read 'Primarchs' but from what I gather the only real source that we have claiming that Fulgrim is no longer possessed is Fulgrim himself, because his captains were trying to exorcise the daemon from him and he basically says "no guys, it's me. That's the daemon trying to trick you to possess me again. I found a way to exorcise myself". This leads me to wonder whether perhaps Fulgrim had found a way to exorcise himself, but needed to get others to perform it and thus influenced his captains to try and perform the exorcism, but the daemon tricked them and they didn't go through with it because they believed that Fulgrim was back to being Fulgrim and not daemon-Fulgrim.

My question is this really; do we have and believe able account that would imply that Fulgrim is/was no longer possessed? I suppose I'd like to believe no so I can have my old tragic fall from grace story back.

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Is it less tragic if he has freed himself of the daemon, but remains a damned shadow of his former glory?

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Fulgrim should be left as being possessed. It works.


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I like the fact that either way he's actually been that twisted by chaos, we're all hoping he's still possessed because he's such an absolute douche now
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Fulgrim should be left as being possessed. It works.
I agree.

I didn't like the change of direction introduced in Reflection Crack'd and carried on in Angel Exterminatus. I loved the concept of a possessed Primarch at the helm of a Legion ignorant to their lord's plight.

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It was one of those cases where trying to throw in a "reveal", wherein something from the past is not as it appeared to be, just didn't work. I hold it right up there with the timeline debacle from The Outcast Dead.

Fulgrim kicking out the daemon only to continue to act as a sadomasochistic epicurean of sorts that is plagued by outrageous arrogance takes away the impact of the climax of Fulgrim.
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Reflection cracked and angel exterminatus -less good bits of perturabo- do not count for me in anyway, they are so bad I ignore them, and remember the better epic and tragic fall from grace storyline, some bl authors need a good kick in the arse!!!!!! Thus speaks Oldman, so let it be written, so let it be done!

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I am not sure, but would be very interest if any of you chaps happen to find out. I would love to see a Fulgrim who could return to fight besides the Imperium once more. It could the the typical tragic Greek hero who is out to seek redemption; like another of McNiell's characters (Cough, Cough).



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Fulgrim would never be allowed back into the Imperium, even if we ignore the fact that he's a deamon prince, no matter how much of a epihany or change of loyalty he might have, the Imperium would never even consider allowing him back in or accepting him as an ally. Never.
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Reflection cracked and angel exterminatus -less good bits of perturabo- do not count for me in anyway, they are so bad I ignore them, and remember the better epic and tragic fall from grace storyline, some bl authors need a good kick in the arse!!!!!! Thus speaks Oldman, so let it be written, so let it be done!
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