Originally Posted by emporershand89
Yes it is breifly mentioned in two novels, the recent Ciaphas Cain novel (in which the Magos Bioligicus metnions that once of her specimens is from the time of the "Heresy), as well as "The Path of the Eldar" bundle I recent bought which includes the "Path of the Outcast." Novel. In it there is a breif mention of a "Hive Fleet Ouroboros," which both the book and Lexicanum do state was destroyed when the Emporer lead a 12-day battle against the "Legion of Ouroboros." To this day it is the earliest Hive Fleet mention that I've heard of, and honestly shows that it as not just the Forces of Chaos that the Imperium has to worry about.
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That's interesting. Dug out the Lexicanum, and it's briefly mentioned in there. One thing that is always spoken of is how time flows oddly in the warp, but it always travels onwards - i.e a ship can enter the warp, and a thousand years pass, but to them, only a week has done so, or conversely, a week passes outside, but a thousand years inside the warp passes. This Hive Fleet Ouroboros is one occasion where time actually flows backwards - i.e X years pass in "real time", but they travel back in time through the warp. According to the 5th edition dex, this is disproved due to lack of Warp Travel, but accidentally getting swallowed into the Eye of Terror or some other warp storm, and the nature (or rather, lack of) of the warp means that it can still happen.
Can you provide the exact quote for the Path of the Outcast? The 4th Edition Dex quote is apparently something that's written by a Cardinal looking to extoll the virtues of his planet; the first recorded history of the planet etc, while Sandy Mitchell's grasp of 40K is... rather fast and loose. And being fair, Gav Thorpe... eh. To know the quality of writing that he produces within the 30K "canon", you're looking at Deliverance Lost type quality, while Soulforge was pretty terrible (but to be expected of the 30K LE books, with the exception of Aurelian).
No offence, but I think it would fuck with the Heresy era too much to simply have another "face" show up just because it ties in with 40K. Look at the hate that Honsou has - only the major players within the Heresy and still active within 40K are given page time, and even that is fleeting; Abaddon, Kharn, Typhus, the only one with any real page time is Lucius, and that's because it's Graham McNeil, and Graham McNeil is about as capable with regard to creating greater-than-one-dimensional characters as a ripped crisp packet is as capable as being a condom, so he piggy backs off the pool of existing "talent" (and still makes them as dynamic as a cardboard cut out) such as Lucius, or his own existing characters, like Honsou. And he's pretty much universally disliked by it (I've yet to see anyone with any actual history with the game enjoy him name dropping - I'm awaiting his 40K UM novel that has "descended" Aeonid Thiel or ones who can trace their lineage back to Ventanus etc.
I don't mean to offend you either, when I mention that no-one actually cares about the Tyranids, either. Because they're your faceless BBEG that you use when you can't actually be arsed using a plot, so you copy Prometheus, Alien, or Aliens. We have enough of those with fliblidoobldoopop and teapot-canary-cowmen that are just randomly made up to have the legions destroy them to show exactly how powerful they are. It's the Heresy era. What we care about is the Legions butting heads. We all want the Emperor's big reveal - it's for this reason I think they've deliberately stayed away from Ullanor, and mentions of him have been small - even Prospero Burns, or A Thousand Sons, whichever one it was that had the Council of Nikaea didn't overuse the Emperor. At the end of the day, he's the Darth Vader, or Yoda. He's apparently this all powerful character, but you just want to see how good he is, and then when you get to see a little teaser in Episode 5, and finally the full battle in Episode 6, it's like holy fuck. That's what you want to see, not some nameless race which for all intents and purposes could be the tyranids getting facebeaten.
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