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post #31 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-01-13, 08:26 AM
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Haah I've been reading these novels longer than you. Loook at our join dates.

Seriously no moderators going to reprimand this troll for his comments? He is clearly 12
What kind of fucked up logic is that? Because you joined before him you have been reading longer? Christ well if that's the case YOU'RE BOTH WRONG I'm right simply because I've been here longer. That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

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What kind of fucked up logic is that? Because you joined before him you have been reading longer? Christ well if that's the case YOU'RE BOTH WRONG I'm right simply because I've been here longer. That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read.
Like the mods said ignore him, if he has to resort to personal attacks he knows I'm right.
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post #33 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-01-13, 02:51 PM
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Why are you guys continuing this? Get back on topic or stop posting.

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One thing I would like to point out concerning power levels is that 30k and the Horus Heresy really is supposed to be an "age of legends" of sorts; Primarchs and Space Marines seems super-powerful specifically because, ten thousand years later, the Imperium has little that can match their might. The Primarchs and the (loyalist) Space Marine Legions are gone; the Emperor is stuck on the Golden Throne; all the magnificent technologies of the Great Crusade are lost, or otherwise extremely rare and misunderstood; and while the Space Marine Chapters still command considerable clout, the age of superhuman leadership is over. I'll let Ahriman explain it for me:

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And what are the achievements of your fragile Imperium? It is a corpse rotting slowly from within while maggots writhe in its belly. It was built with the toil of heroes and giants, and now it is inhabited by frightened weaklings to whom the glories of those times are half-forgotten legends. I have forgotten nothing, and my wisdom has expanded far beyond mere mortal frailties.
If 30k and the Horus Heresy is beginning to seem DBZ-esque, then it's probably because 40k, which is already filled with notable feats of heroism, must look mundane by comparison.

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There's also an aspect of this which relates to the English language. The authors, in stoking those stories and trying to put details on previously vague legends runs into a limit.

The authors are forced to make everything bigger and bigger and bigger. Eventually they are just stacking up superlatives.

The must horrible thing versus the biggest villain in the most extreme . . . blah blah blah.

When everyone goes to 11 all you get is noise.

It adds up to battle story fatigue.

And I suspect to a degree it is necessary because the authors don't want to try and sell a story about the wimpy bookish primarch or the sensitive nature loving primarch.

When producing for fanboys they don't want to be in the position of trying to sell, "in the grim darkness, of the backstory, to the current setting, in the far future; there is only boltguns, new age music, water colours, oh, and war. Lots of war."

The customers would like that even less.

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holt shit, this turned into a cat-fight fast
also dont act like this, its childish:

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Yeah I guess when the primarchs are supposed to be the great legends, I guess it is ok.

This was supposed to be a quick yes or no, if you thought 40k was getting to over powered, We are currently split on the issue, and most people that play the game agree the arms race is getting a bit out of hand.

Well this was a different thread other than the usual who could beat up who.
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