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post #41 of 97 (permalink) Old 11-02-13, 06:08 AM
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This is how I'd kill Abbaddon. Challenge him to personal combat (you would need someone famous like an Inquistorial Lord or Chapter master with a company of Terminators) and get him to accept. When he's on the surface of the world, send a Execution Force to disable his teleporter capabilities of his ship by getting on board. While he's killing whoever you sent, order an Exterminatus while you activate plyons to block the Gods from getting him. CHance of success is 45% but it's worth a shot. Also most of these components would be hard to obtain.
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This is how I'd kill Abbaddon. Challenge him to personal combat (you would need someone famous like an Inquistorial Lord or Chapter master with a company of Terminators) and get him to accept. When he's on the surface of the world, send a Execution Force to disable his teleporter capabilities of his ship by getting on board. While he's killing whoever you sent, order an Exterminatus while you activate plyons to block the Gods from getting him. CHance of success is 45% but it's worth a shot. Also most of these components would be hard to obtain.
1) Why would Abaddon accept a challenge to personal combat from anyone? He has nothing to gain from such a scenario, as there is nobody on the Imperial side as important as he is.
2) The rest of this plan would be both extremely obvious and unlikely to succeed. I don't think you can move Pylons, certainly not quickly, and they are always on. Plus they don't really stop the Gods from interfering, they just limit warp-space overlap.
3) What do you expect Abaddon's ship to be doing while you're boarding it (hard to be subtle about that) and maneuvering for Exterminatus (impossible to be subtle about that)?

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a long shot,
gamble and set up losing the cadian gate (even further) so abaddon can start his crimson path,
the chaos gods will get nervous by the sudden enormous success and will all want to lure him to their side, in the resulting struggle the first chaos god who thinks abaddon will not choose his side will kill him off. Basically the scenario that would enfold after abaddon kicked the emp of the golden throne, just accelerating it.
I have no problem with abaddon being raised by Belgians (that is what made dr evil evil ) and a super villain, however there is just no contender on the IOM side, there is absolutely no balance
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So I take it Abaddon greatest power is being the Great Politician. He is able to keep chaos and the different chaos war band on delicate lease. Which is weird because from reading the Heresy novels I found him to be hot headed and Aximand to be more of level headed Space marine.

I think as a fighter he is just above average Space marine . Because of his sword and Horus talons it gives him a great edge over most space marines but I like to know how it would be if he didn't have those weapons.


Personally I'm kind of sick of Abaddon , Kharn and any of those chaos space marines from 30k . Wish Game work shop just kill them off and introduce new characters to take there place. I mean none of the loyalist Space marine from the 30 K with the exception of Bjorn are alive.
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I mean none of the loyalist Space marine from the 30 K with the exception of Bjorn are alive.
To our knowledge. We know that Raguel the Sufferer, of the Blood Angels Chapter, was around late M.41.

We don't know if any other First or Second Founding Chapters have GC veterans amongst them.

I assume that Bjorn and Raguel have lived as long as they have for much the same reason many of the other Chaos Marines have lived--the fact that time doesn't move for them as the rest of the galaxy. The Night Lords tenth company has only fought for a few centuries since the Great Betrayal. They've had fewer chances to die.

Also some of the Chaos players have their god's favor on their side. Look at Lucy and Kharn. Both of them ought to be dead multiple times, only to be risen from the dead by their respective god.
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To our knowledge. We know that Raguel the Sufferer, of the Blood Angels Chapter, was around late M.41.

We don't know if any other First or Second Founding Chapters have GC veterans amongst them.

I assume that Bjorn and Raguel have lived as long as they have for much the same reason many of the other Chaos Marines have lived--the fact that time doesn't move for them as the rest of the galaxy. The Night Lords tenth company has only fought for a few centuries since the Great Betrayal. They've had fewer chances to die.

Also some of the Chaos players have their god's favor on their side. Look at Lucy and Kharn. Both of them ought to be dead multiple times, only to be risen from the dead by their respective god.
Bjorn has lived so long because he's a Dreadnought. He only gets woken up every once in awhile for ceremony and if his council is needed. As for Raguel, I have no idea.
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Raguel was killed by Talos of the Night Lords from what I've read. So now its just Bjorn as far as we know

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1) Why would Abaddon accept a challenge to personal combat from anyone? He has nothing to gain from such a scenario, as there is nobody on the Imperial side as important as he is.
Just as Horus challenged fellow Primarchs and the Emporer Abbadon also stands to gain by defeating his opponent in single combat. Just the Psychological effect alone would cripple the Imperial Forces but to defeat some of note would gain him mass fllowing amoungst the followers of Choas.

Honestly idk how power the man is but apparently he is on part with the Ancient's and Grey Knight hunters that have fought him, and died in the process. Is he on pare with the Primarchs..............anyones guess at this point. If he was he probably would have made it to Terra by now, but hey..........even Magnus got defeated by a mere Space Wolf on Rus.



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