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Originally Posted by Stella Cadente View Post
They can only swim if they have at least a 10meter certificate
And have 'Power Armbands'...
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Hmm, think it was in battle for the fang a scout flew a ship and had a scout "helmet", perhaps they have something similar for swimming.
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They can walk on water, under the "Jesus" special rule.

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Originally Posted by Achaylus72 View Post
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Originally Posted by Cuinlan View Post
Are there any accounts of SM scouts of swimming and/or engaging in underwater combat operations?
Brothers of the Snake has something like that
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Well, I don't know about other things, but the second Soul Drinkers book, Bleeding Chalice, has Space Marines in full power armor on boats, and when they're knocked off or the boats are smashed, they sink and drown as they're weighed down by their power armor. In Brothers of the Snake, they dive a trench in the ocean nearly naked (and can live twenty or so minutes underwater, iirc Priad did something like twenty-six or twenty-seven), as well as go out in boats to spear giant water wyrms. No fighting underwater, though. As for scouts... I dunno, when you look at them, carapace doesn't look anything like as heavy as power armor, but I've never read anything that says they can or they can't.

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Originally Posted by Over Two Meters Tall! View Post
While Astares armor may be air tight, I have to wonder how it deals with extremes of pressure? A current space suit would be crushed like a beer can at depth and I've never read anything about the various gaskets and connecting joints being pressure resistant. I would imagine the Astares physiology would be more resistant to oxygen toxicity at depth, or nitrogen narcosis, but anything more than 40 meters you still have an issue with cellular tissue struggling against rapidly expanding nitrogen in your body if you come to the surface.

Assuming the above weren't problems in whatever variant of armor being worn, you could probably use the same sort of manouveuring jets/thrusters underwater as you could in vaccum, or just have a propeller attachment to the, um, backpack

What sort of weapons would an Astares (or Scout) use underwater? At the least, if bolters worked, the concussive force of a near miss underwater would still cause significant damage. Does promethium still burn underwater? Plasma weapons would be pretty useless as the water absorbs a lot of energy and the steam displacement blows the Astares backwards.

Even if promethium doesn't burn underwater, they could replace it with Phosphorus. And similar to Plasma weapons, a Melta would probably turn into a fairly reliable means of propulsion. But as you said, the big problem would be pressure and rapid ascent.

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Originally Posted by Cuinlan View Post
Are there any accounts of SM scouts of swimming and/or engaging in underwater combat operations?

I assume it's possible but I've never read of anything happening. Usually it's run here, shoot there, and fly somewhere else.

5th Edition space marine codex : Page 37, Paragraph one, 7th line "one of the Scouts swam out to the moored submersible...... yada yada yada"
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