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So I just finished reading Joe Haldeman's The Forever War This book is so grimdark it makes the Imperium of Man look like the land of Oz.

Anyway, in the book the human soldiers primary weapon is a lasgun built into their power armor. It got me thinking. Is there a reason that space marines can not field a laser weapon stronger than a lasgun but more versatile than a lascannon? It seems like building laser weapons directly into power armor would not be that hard and with all the power packed into power armor, said laser could be made to pack a punch.
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So I just finished reading Joe Haldeman's The Forever War This book is so grimdark it makes the Imperium of Man look like the land of Oz.

Anyway, in the book the human soldiers primary weapon is a lasgun built into their power armor. It got me thinking. Is there a reason that space marines can not field a laser weapon stronger than a lasgun but more versatile than a lascannon? It seems like building laser weapons directly into power armor would not be that hard and with all the power packed into power armor, said laser could be made to pack a punch.
Then youd have enemies disarming marines by trying to damage the vulnerable power backpacks.
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Then youd have enemies disarming marines by trying to damage the vulnerable power backpacks.
To be fair, that's a pretty good idea even with bolter-wielding marines.
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I think we all know how the Imperium is with new ideas.
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Plus marines are pretty much seeing the bolter as a divine implement of destruction in 40k, doubt you could get an astartes to give up such a symbol of tradition that its even been taken up by the SoBs.

Only briefly during the Heresy, there was a real chance for the standard Marine armanent to become the Volkites. But it never happened due to lack of a steady supply, falling back on the easier to produce boltgun.

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I think we all know how the Imperium is with new ideas.

I hardly consider using a hellgun a "new idea". Besides Space Marines have been known to use meltas and plasma pistols instead of bolters. Why not a hellgun with its virtually unlimited ammunition?
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Because 40k is often silly and illogical that's why. Fact is traitor marines, and crusading loyalists would use what ever they thought worked best, and was available. However ultramarines and the like follow the codex arastates which sets out ridiculous rules like what are the acceptable armaments for the emperors angels of death. Honestly there is no fluff or logical reason why say CSM wouldn't just pick up tau pulse rifles and use them till they ran out of ammo, after all most of their bolters, and munitions are salvaged and I doubt they have a limitless supply of em.

It helps numb the sense of stupidity if you focus on the fact that 40k is both a fictional setting and a board game, as such they have to keep both relatively close together or else fans get annoyed. Sure writers take liberties, but SM's will always be primarily equipped with power armor, bolter, grenades. Its part of what makes them 40k space marines and not say star craft space marines.


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I'd reckon their hands would be too big for a Tau Pulse Rifle.
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I hardly consider using a hellgun a "new idea". Besides Space Marines have been known to use meltas and plasma pistols instead of bolters. Why not a hellgun with its virtually unlimited ammunition?
because the gun is in fact a lot worse when it comes to the desired effects.
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Then youd have enemies disarming marines by trying to damage the vulnerable power backpacks.
To be fair, that's a pretty good idea even with bolter-wielding marines.
Don't you mean the Devastators? Standard marines don't have their bolters hooked up to their backpacks. That's for life-support, and even so, Space Marines can survive many environs that would kill a human in an instant even without their backpacks and armour. Nineteen implants and hypnotherapy will damn-well make you a demigod.

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