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Not normally. But it's Terra. I'd assume they have everything to stop everything.

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I wouldnt be surprised if Terra itself was surrounded by void shields or an artificial atmosphere/shield of some kind
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Or the Necrons could just make the sun explode, problem solved.
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Can ground defences stop virus bombs/cyclonic torpedoes (or others)...
Things like these create inconsistencies in the fluff, I feel. They're the "ultimate last ever resort" yet if Horus *really* wanted Terra to fall, why the heck not throw a few Virus Bombs at them to warm things up a little? A cyclonic torpedo or two onto the Palace would've been an absolutely gravy way to tell Big E you're coming. Instead he does, what? Drops his troops and advances. Like any other general. Not like a Warmaster.

Same can be said for the Necrons. They don't need light or warmth so if they actually wanted to cut the heart out of an empire they could just turn off all the suns...! For a race with the ability to singularly destroy every other living thing they don't go about it very efficiently. Heck, the Silent King wants to kill all the Tyranids, but the only way he can think to do it is by killing everybody else so they don't feed the Tyranids and make them too strong for the Necrons. Ok, fair enough. How does he go about doing this?

Batters his army silly trying to kill EVERYBODY so even if he manages it he's still too weak to fight the Tyranids. Because of course, it'd be far too easy to just turn the suns off...
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Things like these create inconsistencies in the fluff, I feel. They're the "ultimate last ever resort" yet if Horus *really* wanted Terra to fall, why the heck not throw a few Virus Bombs at them to warm things up a little? A cyclonic torpedo or two onto the Palace would've been an absolutely gravy way to tell Big E you're coming. Instead he does, what? Drops his troops and advances. Like any other general. Not like a Warmaster.

Same can be said for the Necrons. They don't need light or warmth so if they actually wanted to cut the heart out of an empire they could just turn off all the suns...! For a race with the ability to singularly destroy every other living thing they don't go about it very efficiently. Heck, the Silent King wants to kill all the Tyranids, but the only way he can think to do it is by killing everybody else so they don't feed the Tyranids and make them too strong for the Necrons. Ok, fair enough. How does he go about doing this?

Batters his army silly trying to kill EVERYBODY so even if he manages it he's still too weak to fight the Tyranids. Because of course, it'd be far too easy to just turn the suns off...
Horus wanted to rule the Imperium. Destroying its heart (like the beacon for the astronomican) would have been a very bad move.

Also he had a bone to pick with the Emperor. He wanted to show him he could best him.

Necrons want to harvest the sentient life. Destroying all the suns would not be entirely conducive to it. Not to mention that many of the Necron lords are bound by rules of honor (now). It may be unsporting. Other lords are smug in their superiority. Why would they need to destroy a sun to defeat an inferior race? They can best them in battle.

Some of the Necron commanders also enjoy battle.
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the nids will get tera eventualy
dark eldar and or eldar could if they could open the webway portal
other than that civil war on heresy level on tera
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The eldar/dark eldar don't have the resources or manpower to launch a successful assault on Terra, even if the Webway portal was working. I think it would have to be a morbidly obese Hive Fleet with all sorts of new, super-adapted organisms to take Terra. If Horus couldn't with the Legions, then there's little chance Abby can with his significantly small forces. The orks are just too divided, and the Tau are too busy figuring out whether love is better than good.
The only other race that come close to threatening Terra is the Necrons - but not in their current position, as they haven't fully reawakened yet.

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Just an observation.

It seems the majority of people are assuming that the shadow in the warp will just bugger over the Astronomican the moment the nids get close. But no one seems to have considered the alternative, that getting right up close to a psychic beacon powerful enough to cover most of the galaxy could actually fuck with the nids and the hivemind instead.

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If the tyranids ever make it to terra then the necrons will probably go batshit crazy and nuke all the suns or something drastic like that, I mean if the nids managed to get to terra then there is nothing to stop them from consuming the rest, its either the necrons unleash their power or the chaos gods decide to unite and give the hive mind a bitch slapping it wont forget..
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If Horus couldn't with the Legions, then there's little chance Abby can with his significantly small forces.
According to the Night Lords series Abaddon commands forces much larger than Horus ever did.



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According to the Night Lords series Abaddon commands forces much larger than Horus ever did.

I would assume that's a number inflated from all the human renegades and traitors; the traitor garudsmen, mutants, cultists and such. I can't imagine that there are more Chaos Space Marines now than there were in 30k. They just don't have the resources or infrastructure or organisation to have rebuilt to such a size. There have been traitor chapters since it's true, but that's described as an extremely rare occasion.

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