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So I was wondering with eldrad ulthran dead(presumably) and the primarchs gone Abaddon is probably one of the strongest individuals in the current 40k universe. My question is what character or individual you guys think can best Abaddon single handedly in the current 40k universe(excluding C'tan) and
how would they in terms of their battle prowess?
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I suppose Mr Calgar of the Ultramarines would be a contender, he defeated an eldar avatar in single combat and retook a starfort held by daemons so no slouch in the combat department. Lysander could be a contender as well, he was captured and tortured by his chapters arch enemies the iron warriors and managed to escape, both tough characters to go up against Abbadon

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Lord Driago from the Grey Knights. Why? He is made to fight deamons . Abaddon I think has some of the ruinous power I think and you need someone that can battle against chaos.

Mephisto maybe another one in line along with Dante but I put my money on Mephisto only because he has psychic power.
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I suppose Mr Calgar of the Ultramarines would be a contender, he defeated an eldar avatar in single combat and retook a starfort held by daemons so no slouch in the combat department. Lysander could be a contender as well, he was captured and tortured by his chapters arch enemies the iron warriors and managed to escape, both tough characters to go up against Abbadon
Calgar had a couple dozen of his men shoot up the Avatar first.

Physical and mental toughness only go so far.

I personally don't think either of those two could hold a candle to Abby. He's a Space Marine with thousands of years of experience. He had the best war record of the Lunar Wolves (of whom had the best war record of all the Legions). He has a Primarch weapon on top of an incredibly powerful daemonic weapon. To top it off he's empowered with the gifts of all four Chaos gods.

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Lord Driago from the Grey Knights. Why? He is made to fight deamons . Abaddon I think has some of the ruinous power I think and you need someone that can battle against chaos.
If anyone could do it, it would be a GK.
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Asdrubael Vect would be a contender.

Don't forget Mr. Thraka either.
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Asdrubael Vect would be a contender.

Don't forget Mr. Thraka either.
Vect doesn't seem (or bother) to fight much. The DE codex mentions he never bothers to dirty his own blade and prefers others to do the work for him.

Though with a tricky character like Vect, the author could make up whatever fanciful setups to make the fight interesting. In a straight up fight there'd be no chance.

I don't think Thraka would fare well either. Yarrick, according to the Ork codex, was able to give him a "dramatic battle".

An unsegmented human like Yarrick would be hardpressed to give a regular Space Marine a dramatic battle. Much less Abby.
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I don't think Thraka would fare well either. Yarrick, according to the Ork codex, was able to give him a "dramatic battle".

An unsegmented human like Yarrick would be hardpressed to give a regular Space Marine a dramatic battle. Much less Abby.
Dramatic battle doesn't necessarily mean he did well. Plus, I've always considered the Yarrick fluff to be pure Guard Wank. Realistically, an aging, unaugmented commissar should have gotten flattened within seconds of the first time he encountered Ghazghkull. And Ghazghkull did still kick his ass in anyways. Plus there's descriptions in the Ork codex of Thraka steamrolling through entire regiments. I mean, Belial, the current master of the Deathwing, nearly got ripped in half when he tried to take him on.

And then there's also the argument that Ghazghkull doesn't actually want Yarrick permanently incapacitated because he's the only human who's managed to give him any real resistance when he decides to invade a place.

So, to close, I really think you are underestimating Ghazghkull. IMO he really is one of the few 40k characters who might be able to give Abaddon a decent run for his money. Though I still think Abaddon would probably win in the end.

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if game wise then swarmlord
flufwise pheonix lords would give him a run for his mony
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The only one's that come to mind for me are other Chaos forces. Daemon Primarchs, Greater Daemons etc. although obviously they wouldn't be fighting Abaddon.
For other armies? I would say Vect could with a LOT of planning, trickery and diversion. Definitely not in hand to hand. Drazhar could probably make him sweat a little. Others above have mentioned others, Ghazgkull and Calgar might just, although I doubt it. I reckon Abaddon could pretty much take on anyone and win, the blessing of the Gods is not be taken lightly.

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