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So Slaanesh was born just before the start of the Great Crusade and he made the eye of terror. Soooooo, it stands to reason that Nurgle,Tzeench and Khorne must of been born, but as Slanny is the youngest, obviously at an early date, so where are their 'Eye of Terrors' and when abouts were they born? Or, have they been around since the dawn of time/ its not explained?

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I think the other three where around since time began or before the milky way became full of sentient life, the frolicing eldars hedonism conceived slannesh and birthed the eye of terror, of course there is the mealstrom where huron blackheart hangs out so that is a possible "birthing pool". interesting theory but i'm not a proper fluff guru so cant be of any other help

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So Slaanesh was born just before the start of the Great Crusade and he made the eye of terror. Soooooo, it stands to reason that Nurgle,Tzeench and Khorne must of been born, but as Slanny is the youngest, obviously at an early date, so where are their 'Eye of Terrors' and when abouts were they born? Or, have they been around since the dawn of time/ its not explained?
The answer is...we don't know. There's no lore (to my knowledge) about the births of the other Chaos Gods.

Hell, with how the warp works, the other Chaos Gods could be born in the future and somehow exist in the past and present because the Warp could care less about linear time.
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From what I've heard, the other chaos gods formed over thousands of years, and Slaanesh was born in an instant, so that might have something to do with it. On the other hand time in the warp is meaningless, but it seems like Chaos flaunts even its own ability to flaunt the laws of physics.

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in my opinion due to the fact Slaanesh was conceived almost entirely through the efforts of the Eldar race and since the eye consumed and envelops what used to be their Homeworlds, i think the fact that there were so many of them packed together in a relatively small space meant that when Slaanesh achieved sentience and reaped their souls, because they were close together the combined effects of reaping and closeness tore through the veil of reality. (and so Slaanesh affected a relatively small area, i.e. it was concentrated)

The other gods are different, mainly in the fact they didnt care which races worshipped them (for example khorne) so when they achieved sentience they reaped souls that belonged to a variety of races and therefore from a variety of places and so while in certain areas where blood lust was rife they were consumed by the warp (tear through reality) while others were left relatively unscathed and so because the reaping took place over a wider area it was more diluted and didnt carry the same punch as Slaanesh's birth but affected a wider area.

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It seems to be the case that the other three gods do not have a correspondent warp rift caused by their birth.

The Eye of Terror was the result of Slaanesh's intimate connection with the Eldar, it doesn't seem that the other three gods had such a connection with any particular species. Going by the lore -
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These instinctual, formless beings gained rudimentary consciousness and the Chaos gods were born - vast psychic presences made of the dreams and nightmares of mortals. As the races of the galaxy prospered and grew, so too did their hopes and dreams, their rage and wars, their love and hatred, feeding the Chaos Gods and nurturing their power.
- it seems that the rise of the other gods was a much more gradual process, accelerated by the devastation caused by the War in Heaven. Slaanesh's birth in comparison was much more rapid and caused (almost solely) by the depredation of the Eldar.



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in my opinion due to the fact Slaanesh was conceived almost entirely through the efforts of the Eldar race and since the eye consumed and envelops what used to be their Homeworlds, i think the fact that there were so many of them packed together in a relatively small space meant that when Slaanesh achieved sentience and reaped their souls, because they were close together the combined effects of reaping and closeness tore through the veil of reality. (and so Slaanesh affected a relatively small area, i.e. it was concentrated)

The other gods are different, mainly in the fact they didnt care which races worshipped them (for example khorne) so when they achieved sentience they reaped souls that belonged to a variety of races and therefore from a variety of places and so while in certain areas where blood lust was rife they were consumed by the warp (tear through reality) while others were left relatively unscathed and so because the reaping took place over a wider area it was more diluted and didnt carry the same punch as Slaanesh's birth but affected a wider area.
I'd suggest this is why there are areas in the galaxy where the veil between the material universe and the immaterium is weaker than others...


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E.g the maelstrom right?

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The maelstrom would be a fine example sir. Other notable examples are noted in any book where the author needs to explain why the will be daemons in the next few chapters, "the fabric between our universe and the warp must be thing here, I can feel things scratching, dark things, trying to get through".

Thats not a quote from any particular publication, but is so close to so many actual quotes, take my word for it.


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I'd suggest this is why there are areas in the galaxy where the veil between the material universe and the immaterium is weaker than others...
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The maelstrom would be a fine example sir. Other notable examples are noted in any book where the author needs to explain why the will be daemons in the next few chapters, "the fabric between our universe and the warp must be thing here, I can feel things scratching, dark things, trying to get through".

Thats not a quote from any particular publication, but is so close to so many actual quotes, take my word for it.
Such areas are usually presented as natural phenomenons, or as the result of particular circumstances (such as a high concentration of psykers). I feel that the birth of a Chaos God would have caused more than simply thinning the veil between dimensions in a particular area - if indeed that what was you were getting at.



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