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Tis exactly what I was getting at dude, just pointing out the difference between a thinning of the veil and a great gouge in the galaxy light years across in every dimension.


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Though of course a 'thinning of the the veil' could be the residual after effects of a long ago collapsed rift- the EoT has only been around for just over 10,000 years (in terms of galactic phenomena that's not a great deal of time) and who's to say that eventually it wont destabilise and collapse in upon itself?

Relative stability now doesn't mean stability forever.
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It makes sense that Tzeench's, Khorne's and Nurgle's 'Birth Rifts' would have collapsed in on themselves seeing as they are much much older than Slaanesh

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It makes sense that Tzeench's, Khorne's and Nurgle's 'Birth Rifts' would have collapsed in on themselves seeing as they are much much older than Slaanesh
Or there were not particular rifts which corresponded with their births.

Take into account that the warp itself was thrown into turmoil during the coalescence of Slaanesh, and then calmed following her birth. As I said before, the Eye of Terror was simply the result of Slaanesh's intimate connection with the Eldar. So whilst the warp was likely thrown into (further) turmoil each time a god gained rudimentary consciousness, I don't see why each one would have their own Eye of Terror.



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Or there were not particular rifts which corresponded with their births.

Take into account that the warp itself was thrown into turmoil during the coalescence of Slaanesh, and then calmed following her birth. As I said before, the Eye of Terror was simply the result of Slaanesh's intimate connection with the Eldar. So whilst the warp was likely thrown into (further) turmoil each time a god gained rudimentary consciousness, I don't see why each one would have their own Eye of Terror.
Well, there are two other major warp rifts, so perhaps they are remnants from the birth of two of the older gods. Say, Maelstrom for Khorne and Storm of the Emperor's Wrath for Tzeench.

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Well, there are two other major warp rifts, so perhaps they are remnants from the birth of two of the older gods. Say, Maelstrom for Khorne and Storm of the Emperor's Wrath for Tzeench.
I'd love that to be the case, would make sense why those are smaller, and old grandfather Nurgle hasn't got one, suggesting he was that much older, hence his title - Grandfather Nurgle.


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According to Lexicanum and Black Crusade Core rulebook by fantasy flight games:

"Nurgle is one of the four major Ruinous Powers. He is the the oldest of the four, most probably because he is the God of Death and Decay and those two have been part of the galaxy since the beginning."

I don't think the other gods exploded into life like Slaanesh, they built up over decades.
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You know when things start to add up....


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Well, there are two other major warp rifts, so perhaps they are remnants from the birth of two of the older gods. Say, Maelstrom for Khorne and Storm of the Emperor's Wrath for Tzeench.
The Storm of the Emperor's Wrath materialised in M36, hence its name.

But what I am trying to get across is why would the gods (bar Slaanesh) have a particular warp rift (located in a specific location) that was caused by their births? As I said earlier, numerous warp rifts and turbulence would have occured during the coalescence of the gods (as such happened during Slaanesh's coalescence) but unlike Slaanesh, the other gods would not have been tied to a particular location in reality as Slaanesh was with the core of the Eldar Empire.

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hence his title - Grandfather Nurgle.
He is called such because of his attitude towards his followers.

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I don't think the other gods exploded into life like Slaanesh, they built up over decades.
More like billions of years, rather than decades.



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I did say Decades, could of been a million decades for all you know
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