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Greetings. I have a rather trivial question about the names of our beloved battle brothers. I am curious about the names given to them. Simple put do they keep their birth names from their home or are the renamed after the rebirth as a scout? I think that the gene seed process and psyco conditioning used to seperate them from their origins might require the chaplains or chapter master to name them to ensure a complete severing of ties to the past. Just interested in what you all think. Just as an example imagine a fella named Peter Long being inducted and surviving in the Ultra Marines would Calgar accept this or give hime a more obscure sinister name befitting a UM?

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Ultramarines? Sinister names?

I kid. I think that they keep their names IIRC, but it does depend on which chapter you're talking about, and which world they come from etc etc.

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It wholly depends on the Chapter. First thing you have to remember, humans no longer have names we would reconize. It is 40,000 years in the future. As well, any linguistic would tell you, coming into contact with so many races and lost branches of humanity changes language. That said, here's some examples:

In Dawn of War Omnibus, a guardsman who gets recruited by the Blood Ravens, Ckrius, keeps his name. Its also hinted that Captain Gabriel and Librarian Isador kept their names as well.
In the Space Wolves, you lose your name, until you earn it back by becoming a Grey Hunter or other promotion.
Certain Chaos Legions, like the Thousand Sons, have maintained the same names since first leaving Terra with the Emperor. Ahriman is one of them. His full name always being Ahzek Ahriman.

It would note, however, that most of the named Space Marine characters in novels have names that are closley associated with their Chapter. This is true in particular for those chapters with am angelic feel: Blood Angels (Dante, Memphiston), Dark Angels (Sammel, Belial, Ezekiel). That may just be designers ease of name, or that the chapter renames its battle brothers something more in line with the Chapters background.

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Plus, some chapters name their Battle Brothers diffrently once they take a certain position in the chapter.

Vulkan He'stan, for instance is as much a title as it is a name.

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In the Space Wolves, you lose your name, until you earn it back by becoming a Grey Hunter or other promotion.

It would note, however, that most of the named Space Marine characters in novels have names that are closley associated with their Chapter. This is true in particular for those chapters with am angelic feel: Blood Angels (Dante, Memphiston), Dark Angels (Sammel, Belial, Ezekiel). That may just be designers ease of name, or that the chapter renames its battle brothers something more in line with the Chapters background.
Not heard that about the Space Wolves (especially sincer Ragnar kept his name even when he was a Blood Claw).

The Dark Angels do change the names of their recruits, or give them a Chapter name for 'official' usage, whereas the Imperial Fists who recruit from a similarly diverse pool of aspirants don't.

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I recall that the in the blood angel books Rafan keeps his name from when he was undergoing his trials. So did his brother. In the heresy series the dark angel characters keep their names except for the cypher. I would say that keeping your name is the norm and not the exception to the rule and that the tendency for names tied to the chapter's motif is a result of the worlds they recruit from being inspired by the legends of the chapter/legion.
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This is true in particular for those chapters with am angelic feel: Blood Angels (Dante, Memphiston), Dark Angels (Sammel, Belial, Ezekiel). That may just be designers ease of name, or that the chapter renames its battle brothers something more in line with the Chapters background.
Actually Mephiston is not originally called Mephiston, he changes his name from Callistarius to Mephiston after he overcomes the black rage.

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While the Dark ANgels in the Heresy era keep their names the Dark Angels of 40k get a new name upon becoming a scout as is evidenced from Battle of Piscina where Namaan remarks he is the 25th or 26th of that name and wonders who else will carry it after him.

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While the Dark ANgels in the Heresy era keep their names the Dark Angels of 40k get a new name upon becoming a scout as is evidenced from Battle of Piscina where Namaan remarks he is the 25th or 26th of that name and wonders who else will carry it after him.
This is mostly because Dark Angels do not want to lose their original culture, which is Caliban. Caliban is destroyed, so in order to keep that culture, the new members must undertake in it, even in renaming themselves. Otherwise it appears most people have their original names.
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