Originally Posted by emporershand89
I suppose I should clarify then. I have actually been made to watch my little pony. My girlfriend invites her GF's over to use my Netflix to watch the 1st Season, and probably the 2nd Season, though idk if it's on there. So yes, I have seen it.
So, let me ask you...do you quesdtion your girlfriend and her friends for watching a 'little child's show'? Do you think anything less of them? Do you think that they can't handle a mature and complex subject as a boy who turns into alien superheroes?
....I consider this to bee a little child's show. I will give you it's not Telly Tubbies or Barney; perhaps that was a bit much. But it still falls into that pre-teen category.
That's the thing...people assume that just because they watched and enjoyed a show at a certain age that it was targeted for people of that age.
Ben10 is a kids' show as much as MLP is. THey target the same demo and despite the fact that a lot of adults and older kids enjoy the show, the majority of the people it's being sold to are in the younger bracket who presure their folks into buying toys and sugar cereals.
Conversely, I know people who, when they were say 4 or 5, watched the old 'Batman: The Animated Series' in the 90s and adored it, literally absorbed every minute of it and made their parents buy every action figure.
Would you say that just because young children enjoyed the show that it;s only for them? Obviously not, B:TAS was a fantastically written series that appealed and still appeals to people of all ages.
I'm not putting MLP on the same exalted tier as that bastion of animated programming, but it;s an example of a show that was marketed at little children who did most of the merch-buying, but was intelligently written and thus beloved by the adult audience of the time.
Yes, there are lots of small girls who adore MLP and make their folks buy all the ponies, but that doesn't mean that the show isn't intelligently written and capable of appealing to someone not primarily interested in having tea parties for their dollies, any more than superhero shoes are meant exclusively for kids who run around in their underoos with towels for capes.
You assume superhero shows are targeted at an older audience *because you enjoy them* and if you enjoy them they MUST be meant for older kids.
But someone else who likes something you don't is guilty of watching something out of their demographic and therefore there must be something wrong with them.
The only reason I believe MLP is so successful outside of the kid spectrum is because it's marketing team has done a fantastic job at selling the brand to everyone.
Anyone female can love ponies, even the bro's can be "Bronies." As stupid as I think it is I must admit it's brilliant marketing scheme.
You may not realize it, but that's both profoundly ignorant of what most Bronies think, but it;s also more than a little insulting.
For starters, most bronies HATE Hasbro's marketing division because they;re constantly making the show MORE kiddy-girly, meddeling with the plots and goals of the writers and creator (Faust ended up leaving because Hasbro kept trying to dull her ideas down) and utterly fucking up the merchendise. It was almost impossible to get show-accurate merch that the adult collectors were wanting. Celestia, the goddess-figure of the show is a white winged unicorn...her first toys were PINK...why? Because Hasbro figured they would sell more pink toy horsies than white ones. Doesn't matter that it didn't match the character. And it's still almost impossible to find high-quality plushes of the characters. It wasn't until bronies started making and selling them themselves that Hasbro even bothered looking in that direction.
Fuck, it was two years before they even started putting out DVDs in season-sets instead of one-episode mini-disc pack ins with the dollies bronies don't want to buy. Seriously, the show may be written with more than just little girls in mind, but it was *marketed* exclusively to them until very recently.
So as someone who's heard the epic rants of toy collecting bronies, I find the very notion that hasbro's marketing department *attracted* people to the show to be laughable in the extreme. How is Hasbro selling it to adult men when every thing they do is aimed at selling it to the show's actual target demo. They've gone out of their way (until recently) to all but say "This show isn't for you"
Now, for the insulting bit.
Do you have any idea how iutterly back-handed and smug it sounds for *you* (who until now felt the show was meant to entertain infants) to tell *me* that the only reason *I* like something is because I fell for a marketing scheme?
Seriously, think about what you just said and understand why I'm restraining every urge to tell you to go fuck yourself. I realize you probably didn't mean for it to come off that way, but that's seriously about the most smug, superior, condescending thing I've heard in quite a while. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.
You don't know why I like the things I like. You don't know me, you obviously don't know the show, and you don't know the fandom. To sit there and say to me that the only reason people enjoy what they enjoy is because they were sold on it by marketers is just incredibly, monumentally insulting.
Plus, it's laughably ironic, considering you yourself enjoy shows created for small children and sponsored entirely by toy sales. But because *you* like it, and it's 'for boys' you're NOT the victim of a marketing scheme, you're just an astute consumer who knows what he likes...because the company told you it's for you, because you're a boy. Even if you're right and the show IS actually targeted at college kids...how is a young adult male who watches a show supposedly targeted at young adult makes, NOT a victim of marketing while a young adult male who watches a show targeted at little girls IS a victim of clever marketing? Seriously, wrap your brain around that one. You're watching what they say you're supposed to watch, I'm watching what they say I'm not supposed to watch, for which there is virtually no desirable merchandise that hasn't been created by third-parries or the fans themselves, and I'm the one who got suckered by hasbro?
Now, please...don't ever presume to know the inner workings of my mind. Do not tell me why I like something, or call me the victim of creative marketing while implying that you are not.
I'm being very nice right now because it's what Fluttershy would do.
Rainbow Dash would kick your ass, however.