Ahhhh, i can see what youre saying. Lacking the ability to kill heavy tanks is big. I was just wondering about 1850pts for cost reasons. Im at 1500pts with some bikes and 2 boxs of betrayal at calth. I just didnt see Maru Skara working effectively at anything less that 2000pts and even then. 2500pts is boarder line apocalypse battle. Thank you for the help.