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post #11 of (permalink) Old 07-06-15, 09:43 AM
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Well, think about it like you did with your list you posted in the other thread.

You had a Ravenwing Strike Force, and multiple Ravenwing Attack Squadrons.

Technically, each formation or detachment that you're using is ALLIED with each other.

So right now, your army is this:

Ravenwing Strike Force DETACHMENT (Primary Detachment).
Ravenwing Attack Squadron FORMATION DETACHMENT (ally).
Ravenwing Attack Squadron FORMATION DETACHMENT (ally).

Yes, these are all the same codex and book, so the fact that their allies are lost in the fact that they'er all one big happy family. But at the very core of the Detachment/Formation system, that's what happens.

Now the ALLIED DETACHMENT is a very specific rules set from the main rule book. It says you can have 1 HQ, 1-2 Troops, and then 0-1 Elite, 0-1 Fast, and 0-1 Heavy. It can't be from the same faction as your Primary Detachment.

The Siegebreaker Cohort that you mentioned can't be an ALLIED DETACHMENT, because it has its own rules and it's own very specific selections to take; no models can ever be part of two different Formations at the same time (unless we're talking something like the Lion's Blade).

So instead, you could have something like this.

Ravenwing Strike Force DETACHMENT (Primary Detachment).
Ravenwing Attack Squadron FORMATION DETACHMENT (ally).
Siegebreaker Cohort FORMATION DETACHMENT (ally).

or

Ravenwing Strike Force DETACHMENT (Primary Detachment).
Ravenwing Attack Squadron FORMATION DETACHMENT (ally).
White Scar ALLIED DETACHMENT (ally).

The issue that a lot of people get caught up in is that ALLIED DETACHMENT and 'ally' share a word, so people assume it's the same. Happens a LOT with Tau Empire and Farsight.

And to answer your question specifically! Allies in general simply are two parts of your army, and they interact based on the Matrix in the main rule book. General rule of thumb is that the Imperium Branches, especially marines, treat each other as Battle Brothers, which mean they may as well be one massive army. The Allied Detachment gives you almost nothing, except a way to get in another army that might not have any of its own formations yet, in just a small scoop (as few as one troop and hq).

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