Beginner Eldar Q's; Weapon Platforms and Harlequins

[reubiedoo]

These are simple questions i'm sure, but I still don't know the answers.

1. How far can the HS platforms move? standard 6"? Can't see a reason to play them if they do, however if they can't move period, then they can Deep Strike.

2. Is there any reasons Harlies can't get in a transport (ie. Falcon/ WS), although obviously not assigned?


I have scoured the codex, and the rulebook. Probably being oblivious.

All response appreciated.

Thanks

Weapon Skill (p6 40k 5th) Wolf Scouts (p27,88 C:SW) White Scars - Codex: Space Marines Warp Spiders (p36, p65 C:Eldar)

[Siphon]

1.) 6 inches. They cannot deep strike since they do not have the option to deep strike.

2.) No. They can get in a Falcon, start the game inside a Falcon, or get into a WS on the first turn as long as their is no other unit in the WS, but they cannot start the game in a WS since they do not have the option of buying one. They can "steal" another units WS by that other unit not being in the WS, placing the WS next to the Harlis, and embarking them on the first turn.

Weapon Skill (p6 40k 5th) Wolf Scouts (p27,88 C:SW) White Scars - Codex: Space Marines Warp Spiders (p36, p65 C:Eldar)

[Revelations]

1. Platforms move as fast as the infantry using them. It's just like having a heavy weapon on any other infantry in any other army; if you want some heavy weapons for your troops, that's how you get them.

2. Harlies may ride any transport. Just because a unit can't purchase a dedicated transport, doesn't mean they can't ride in a vehicle that can transport units. They usually don't need to because it's rediculously hard to shoot at them and they move faster than most units.

[Siphon]

I think he was refering to the Heavy Support - Support weapon battery option for eldar and not the weapons platform you get with guardians. And the platforms with guardians do not function like other heavy weapons from other armies as the guardian platforms can move and shoot. The heavy support options cannot move and shoot however.

[reubiedoo]

Yeah Siphon is right - I meant the Big'uns.

re Deep Strike, see Mision Special Rules/ Reserves/ Arriving From Reserve - last paragraph.

"Certain rare units are permanently immobile. If a unit like this cannot be deployed (DoW) or the player decides to keep it in reserve, it will enter the game by deepstrike." Airdropped or the like.

Dawn of War

[reubiedoo]

Sorry - forgot to say thank you, and rep+

[NecronCowboy]

Guardian support platforms can move as much as they like I believe, because they are simply a marker and are not actually models in play.

[Siphon]

Originally Posted by NecronCowboy

Guardian support platforms can move as much as they like I believe, because they are simply a marker and are not actually models in play.

Not entirely true. They have to remain near the two guardians designated as the crew, even if the gun itself is only a marker. It would be cheating to have the gun on one side of the unit, measure distance from the gun, and then on the next shooting phase move the gun to the other side of the unit and measure distance from the gun on that side. It has to remain near the gunner model, and if he dies it goes to the other designated crew member.

Edit. Looks like I was wrong as well. You don't measure it from the gun, but rather from the gunner. Still, it has to remain in coherency with one of them. Seems like a rather cheap abuse to put the two guardians on either side of the unit and just say which one has the gun on each shooting phase.

[chromedog]

1. The Heavy support platforms CAN move - they are not immobile.

They can move 6" in the movement phase - with the crew, however doing this means they CANNOT fire (but the crew may fire their catapults instead).

They cannot DS unless a specific mission allows it (Planetstrike), and MUST move on from your board edge if placed in reserve.

2. No. Harlies can not have a DEDICATED transport, but there is nothing stopping them using any transport after the start of the game (ie they can't deploy in a wave serpent, but turn 1 they can embark into one), or from using or being deployed in another non-dedicated vehicle with transport (ie a Falcon).

Deep Strike (p95 40k 5th)

[Sethis]

1. Support Weapon platforms do not move because no-one takes them. Ever.

2. See Llamafish's post in the Army List Eldar section.