Originally Posted by Farseer Darvaleth
*sigh* VC finally get thrown a bone after 8th ed stuffed us down the toilet, and people are making threads discussing their broken-edness...
As Tim/Steve explained, this is just the whole "zomg new army it's so broke" thing and not "having played the army many times, using different armies and scenarios, I can firmly conclude X is under-costed". Screamers have a similar effect and they can fly, but is anybody making threads about that? No? Why not? Because the book isn't new, perhaps?
I'm wasting my breath, though; once people actually get a game in they will realise that Phil Kelly knows what he's on about.
People need to stop and remember that the name on our book is the same name that's on WoC, Orks, Eldar, Dark Eldar, SW's. I think out of all those books, the only big complaints are the continuous and age-old SW's hate-on, venom spam, and 8th ed itself making chosen utterly insane!
The 'ethereal cheese' everyone is blathering on about will come from hyper-competitive types abusing 3x 1 spirit host bases as cheap deployment drops and monster/small elite unit sans magic attacks tarpits.
And even these aren't all that nasty - just take a Lore of Fire or better yet, a Lore of Light wizard when its an option and those ethereals will go poof!
Tim/Steven: It sounds like your ogres could do with a firebelly and/or converting those new crypt horrors/vaghiests into yetees for added magical attack sources!
Apparently VC's are broken because of all our ethereals...;)