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So today I played in an 1850 tournament in Cleveland. I just moved to the area and though it would be a great chance to meet some new people. The list I wrote is like a sprinter, great in the short term (turns 1 and 2) and then fades fast.

I scored first blood and slay the warlord in all three games, but in the first two, they were my only points, as I couldn't hold objectives and got all but tables (1 Leman Russ left in the first two games). The third game I tabled my opponent turn 4. There was no terrain on any of the tables and we played The Relic, then a mission with 4 objectives, then one with 6 objectives and Maelstorm rules.

I like the idea, have never used a LoW before, and don't think I'm going to sink points into one again.

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Vets- 1 Plasma, Chimera
Vets- 1 Plasma, Chimera
Vets, 2 Flamers, Chimera
LoW- Stormsword
Emperor's Fist Company
Enginseer with 1 servitor
Pask Punisher 3 heavy bolters
Exterminator with lascannon
Executioner with heavy bolter
Demolisher with heavy bolter
Punisher with heavy bolter

Usually I take 2 vendettas, putting a PCS and a special weapon team with flamers in them for linebreaker and late objective takers.

Other than dropping the LoW, how can I improve my list? I think it has potential.

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Here are my changes:

CCS 2 Flamers in Vendetta
PCS
2 Troops
Special Weapons Team 3 Flamers in Vendetta
Vets in Chimera, 2 plasma
Vets in Chimera, 2 plasma
Emperor's Fist Company
Pask Punisher, 3 heavy bolters
Exterminator, Lascannon
Demolisher, HB
Executioner, HB
Punisher,HB
2 Enginseers
4 servitors

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First, one of the big issues with using a shadowsword in a turn at that point level is how much it compromises the rest of your army. Your effectively going in with a 1350 army.

As for your second list:
I'd get melt as on the company command squad, don't waste their BS on flamers.

If your not going up against tons of flyers than I would say the one vendetta should be fine, and consider dropping the second one and infantry platoon and maybe bring the third vet squad.

Keep the heavy bolter on the exterminator and get it some heavy bolted sponsons.

Swap the executioner for an annihilator with hull lascanno and give the demolished a hull heavy bolter.

Consider taking an eradicator over the second punisher

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So there is a tournament back home in Blacksburg, VA called NRVcon (Nerve Con). They are doing an 1850 two day tournament, using NOVA open missions and rules, sort of a practice for the NOVA Open. Since I moved to Cleveland, OH I've met a great group of guys who are really good players. One guy is the best Guard player I have ever seen, and he runs chimera spam. I would love to follow in his footsteps but I can't get away from the Emperor's Fist Company. We are going to start practice games this weekend and here is my first draft:

NRVcon 1850
73rd Death Korp of Krieg
CCS, Company Commander, 2 x flamers, 2 lasgun, Vendetta
PCS, Platoon Commander, 2 x flamers, 2 lasgun, Vendetta
Squad 1 Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer
Squad 2 Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer
Veteran Squad Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer, Autocannon Team, Plasma gun
Veteran Squad Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer, Autocannon Team, Plasma gun
Emperorís Fist Armoured Company
Pask Punisher, heavy bolter, 2 x heavy bolter
Executioner, lascannon
Squad 1 Exterminator, heavy bolter
Squad 2 Exterminator, heavy bolter
Squad 3 Demolisher, heavy bolter

I know the BS4 is wasted on flamers but I like to use them as late game objective takers. I usually run chimeras with multilasers and heavy bolters but the chimera spammer convinced me to run them with autocannons and heavy flamers to take over objectives.

Any advice would be appreciated. If it's in the codex, I have it, so let me know what I should add or change.

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73rd Death Korp of Krieg
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PCS, Platoon Commander, 4 x flamers, Vendetta

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Squad 1 Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer, Lascannon Team

Squad 2 Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer, Lascannon Team

Squad 3 Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer, Lascannon Team

Veteran Squad Chimera w/ autocannon and heavy flamer

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Emperorís Fist Armoured Company
Pask Punisher, heavy bolter, 2 x multimelta

Executioner, Heavy Bolter

Squad 1 Exterminator, heavy bolter
Squad 2 Exterminator, heavy bolter

Squad 3 Demolisher, heavy bolter

Enginseer w/ 1 servitor


No troops in the chimeras, they (chimeras) move around securing objectives. Blob troops together and give orders to the heavy weapons team.

PCS is in Vendetta for late objectives and linebreaker.
@ntaw @darkreever What do you guys think? Is this better than the above list?

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I don't play at tournaments and have no real interest in the scene, but since you tagged me:

- are you playing DKoK just for autocannon Chimeras

- why no weapons that make use of the Vet's BS4

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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I don't play at tournaments and have no real interest in the scene, but since you tagged me:

- are you playing DKoK just for autocannon Chimeras

- why no weapons that make use of the Vet's BS4
I'm playing DKOK in name only. I like the models. I actually was thinking of dropping the demolisher to a punisher and giving the vet squad two plasma guns. Also thought about dropping the servitor, putting the enginseer with the vet squad and giving Pask a lascannon on the hull.

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I'm playing DKOK in name only. I like the models.
Autocannons aren't allowed on Chimeras out of the AM 'dex, but DKoK ones come stock with them if I recall their rules correctly...so...more than a name?

The models are friggin' sweet. If I ever truly collected a Guard army I would do a clean sweep of my collection and start from scratch with them.

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I actually was thinking of dropping the demolisher to a punisher and giving the vet squad two plasma guns.
Your call on the tank choice, but shuffling some stuff around to allocate those Vets some weapons I think would be worth it.

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Also thought about dropping the servitor, putting the enginseer with the vet squad and giving Pask a lascannon on the hull.
Both have their uses. I like the use of the lascannon more.

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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Autocannons aren't allowed on Chimeras out of the AM 'dex, but DKoK ones come stock with them if I recall their rules correctly...so...more than a name.
I was using Imperial Armour 1, Second edition rules for the chimeras. Was thinking about doing an Armoured Battle Group list for the instant death beast shells and objective secured ruses.

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Three posts eaten. If I had something to say, I don't anymore.

Get your shit together, Heresy.

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