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Newbies first army list

Hello all im new to the world of tabletop gaming and as the title suggests this is my first attempt at a list. After going to my local gamesworkshop i realised i would be facing some really cheesy armies so here is my Elysian list.

HQ
lord commisar w/ cara armour, power fist & melta bombs

TROOPS

Drop platoon
2 squads w 2 melta guns

Veterans x 3
Demo vets, 3x melta guns
Valks x3 for transports w rocket pods, hb sidesponsons, multi lasers

FAST ATTACK
2x Vendetta w sponson mounted HB's, 2x TL lascannons

1x Vendetta w sponson mounted HB's, 2x TL lascannons

2x Vultures w TL punnisher gattling cannon

1850pts

Ok so my idea is to deny any enemy targets to fire on or swarm while maintaining complete air control on the battlefield. The blob w the lord commisar will hold back table objectives while the demo vets will go forth and wreak havoc while being supposted by vendettas, valks and vultures. This list will have 51 troops and 8 flyers, i doubt any army could compete with that air power however do i have enough feet on the ground to be competitive? All thoughts and crits are most welcome...cheers
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Awesome advice yall!!! Thanks it was all greatly appreciated
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Your spamming eight flyers and a few melt squads. There's not much to comment on really.

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This list will have 51 troops and 8 flyers, i doubt any army could compete with that air power however do i have enough feet on the ground to be competitive?
Ignoring the fact that scrolling down gave me a burning desire to be a total cunt,

Are you starting everything in Reserve? If so, do Elysians have the ability to be pulled out of Reserve Turn 1? Keeping in mind that Fliers cannot start on the table top even if you choose to do so in Hover mode. The only exceptions being Codex Special Rules which confer Reserves manipulation or maybe a Skyshield Landing Pad, but my memory of those is hazy at the moment.

Otherwise you'll lose T1 without anything going on whatsoever. Hurray for Fliers!

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Also, think you could give us unit totals? I tried remaking the list to see where points were but only came up with an 1830 list.

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Sorry if i came across as rude guys, was just wanting some feedback. As im new to this game im not sure about the starting/reserve issues however if allowed i could put the blob w lord commisar hiding at the back on my deployment zone and hope for good reserve rolls or trade in a Vendetta for some sentinals. Could that work or would i get wiped turn 1?
As for point totals;
Lord commisar @ 110pts
Infantry platoon @ 180pts
3x vets @280pts each
2x Vendetta @ 280pts
1x Vendetta @ 130pts (no HB sponson )
2x Vultures @ 310pts

* this is in no way a friendly list, it would be used to deal with multi wraith lists ect

Also sorry again for sounding like an impatient cunt
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It sounds very risky hiding a single guy at the back of the table, even out of sight. Barrage weapons could end the game fast, and scouting units like flesh hounds could get a charge on turn 1 if you get the first turn. Maybe other fast units could get themselves into line of sight for shooting too, like flying hive tyrants

Alternatively with everything waiting to come in via reserve you'd have a lot of pressure to kill units on objectives quickly, especially if points are being scored throughout the game

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i'd remove a couple of flyers and beef up table control with Tauroxes with melta vets. You are dangerously squishy on turn 1 and 2. What happens if turn 2 you just have a couple reserve rolls on your side? And if T1 the opponent manges to charge or happens to have some long range decent firepower.... well...you are done.
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If you're playing Guard you have a handy tool for Reserve manipulation at your fingertips: the Master of the Fleet. If you're intent on running this many Fliers (or more than one, really) this guy is worth it for the extra security. Alternately you could grab an Aegis Defense Line with Comms Relay for your Platoon and put some heavy weapons in there to keep them useful at range.

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Keep in mind @ntaw that Elysian officers of the fleet only have the intercept reserves rule. So that might throw off the aiding reserves idea.

Also Elysian drop platoon infantry squads can't have heavy weapon teams. They need to take heavy weapon squads in order to bring some bigger guns to play with.

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