Loss of Veteran Skills for Chaos Marines in new codex

[rokassan]

Anyone have an Idea or theory as to why Chaos Marines will not have access to Vet skills in the new Chaos codex?Call me crazy but some of these guys have been around since the Heresy and your telling me they havent learned their battlefield craft well enought to gain vet skills.Are my Plague Marines brain dead.

[Jacobite]

I think the reasoning behind it is that GW is aiming at taking the CSM away from the original nine Tratior Legions and focussing more on Renegades who have turned away from the Imperium since the Heresy. They don't seem to think it makes sense for the orginal Nine to still be a viable fighting force now since they have been around for 10,000 years

Which in my humble opinion doesn't make sense, I mean really are you trying to tell me that enough Space Marines are deserting the Imperuim and joining Chaos to justify such a shift in direction?, I mean with all the propoganda they put out about Space Marines being the most loyal and being so few?.

But hey thats just me. Hope that helps.

[dakari-mane]

Have you actually read the codex?

Because if you havent how do you know?

Just wait.

[experiment 626]

Originally Posted by rokassan

Anyone have an Idea or theory as to why Chaos Marines will not have access to Vet skills in the new Chaos codex?Call me crazy but some of these guys have been around since the Heresy and your telling me they havent learned their battlefield craft well enought to gain vet skills.Are my Plague Marines brain dead.

it's a balancing trick... jervis mainly is tired of seeing the same old things used in pretty much every competitive list and especially, seeing the same things abused again and again! (such as an infiltrating statured prince w/d.speed)

also, there will now be a huge difference between basic chaos marines and the cult marines when they eventually get their own book.

cheers!

[Jeridian]

I'll forgive Jervis his sins, if he totally screws Chaos like he did DA.

Yes, in some ways I'm a petty, vindictive bugger who's tired of Chaos being the most broken Codex out there.

Oh the wailing of Chaos players will be music to my ears- :twisted:

[Elric of Melnibone]

Originally Posted by experiment 626

(such as an infiltrating statured prince w/d.speed)

cheers!

Not sure you can have one of these

[Elric of Melnibone]

Originally Posted by Jeridian

Yes, in some ways I'm a petty, vindictive bugger who's tired of Chaos being the most broken Codex out there.

Oh the wailing of Chaos players will be music to my ears- :twisted:

But before Chaos wasn't it Eldar.....and before that ??


:roll:

[kelvingreen]

Originally Posted by experiment 626

also, there will now be a huge difference between basic chaos marines and the cult marines when they eventually get their own book.

So there's going to be a Chaos Space Marine Codex, a Cult Space Marine Codex and a Daemon Codex?

[Jacobite]

@dakari-mane: Stuff like that gets leaked from reliable sources and given out freely from Red/Blackshirts all the time. If your source is good you can pretty much bank on it being true. Most of the rumours off both DA and BA were right weren't they. So no, we don't know for sure, however theres a 95%+ chance that we are right. I'd take those odds.

@kelvingreen: Thats what the speculation is at the moment. Although the Daemon Codex might be mixed in the with the Cult books i.e. In a codex for Khorne and Nurgle they have both Cult troops - Berserkers, Plague Marines and the Deity Specific Deamons - Plague Bearers, Blood Letters etc.

[experiment 626]

Originally Posted by kelvingreen

So there's going to be a Chaos Space Marine Codex, a Cult Space Marine Codex and a Daemon Codex?

according to gav thorpe, yes the idea is to eventually have 1 book for each cult army. (this is in a perfect world senario mind!)
this way, they can go into way more detail than ever about how and why each cult force fights, acts and thinks the way it does... more special characters and more hobby material as well as expanding each cult force to be truely unique other than say a bunch of guys with big axes in a khorne army.

cheers!