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My names Ed, I collect a variety of 40k races but predominantly space marines, also got a few necromunda miniatures as well as a space dwarf.
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Welcome to Heresy, what other armies do you collect and how long have you been in the hobby?

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I started collecting my first ultramarines when I was 11, I'm 28 now so that's 17 years. Other than what I've mentioned I've got a hand full of harlequin eldars, vaguely flirted with fantasy Warhammer over the years. Oddly enough I am a Lord of the Rings fan yet never purchased any of Game Workshop's miniatures for the LOTR series because in my early teens I felt morally obliged to think that Game Workshop's universe wasn't Tolkien's realm, Warhammer's got more of a pace and an ethos of energy whereas Tolkien is more of a wind in the willows type of thing Warhammer is more Willow, the film with Warwick Davis?

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The fluff for the most part, especially when it comes to things like the Fallen Angels and the potential to interpret what happened (and who the true villain in that case) in a different light.

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The fluff for the most part, especially when it comes to things like the Fallen Angels and the potential to interpret what happened (and who the true villain in that case) in a different light.
that's a novel presumably? I enjoyed the graphic literature black library produced like Kal Jerrico in the necromunda universe or the story of a space marine working along side a female assassin:




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that's a novel presumably?
No, the Fallen are members of the Dark Angel legion who sided with Luther in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy. Luther allegedly fell to chaos and turned on the Lion, the legion fought on Caliban and their actions, along with intervention of the chaos gods, tore Caliban apart and scattered Luthers supporters across time and space.

The Dark Angels who had sided with the Lion vowed to hunt down their fallen brothers, taking the title of the unforgiven.

Now there are some, myself included, who like to believe that those events were warped. That the Lion actually turned traitor and Luther had remained loyal. The Lion's followers have been hunting down the loyal remnants of the legion, lieing to their own for millennia.

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I like Kal, Blood Royal was one of the first novels I ever read.

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Welcome to heresy, love the username, enjoy the stay

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No, the Fallen are members of the Dark Angel legion who sided with Luther in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy. Luther allegedly fell to chaos and turned on the Lion, the legion fought on Caliban and their actions, along with intervention of the chaos gods, tore Caliban apart and scattered Luthers supporters across time and space.

The Dark Angels who had sided with the Lion vowed to hunt down their fallen brothers, taking the title of the unforgiven.

Now there are some, myself included, who like to believe that those events were warped. That the Lion actually turned traitor and Luther had remained loyal. The Lion's followers have been hunting down the loyal remnants of the legion, lieing to their own for millennia.
Well according to this guy who worked in the shop space marines have two hearts and rib cages, are 9 feet tall and dark angels spit acid?

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Well according to this guy who worked in the shop space marines have two hearts and rib cages, are 9 feet tall and dark angels spit acid?
I believe the Dark Angels still retain the Betchers Gland and can spit acid. Originally every space marine could do that, but over time the organ that allowed for that has become corrupted and no longer functions for some chapters.

Space marines do indeed have two hearts, in addition to a third lung and a reinforced skeletal structure (included a reinforced and mostly fused ribcage.) Some marines can become nine feet tall, but the average height of a marine is somewhere between seven and eight feet tall.

All in all, a neophyte/aspirant undergoes a total of eighteen implants, plus training, in order to become a space marine. Its a long process, and for more details on the implants check out creation of a space marine.

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I believe the Dark Angels still retain the Betchers Gland and can spit acid. Originally every space marine could do that, but over time the organ that allowed for that has become corrupted and no longer functions for some chapters.

Space marines do indeed have two hearts, in addition to a third lung and a reinforced skeletal structure (included a reinforced and mostly fused ribcage.) Some marines can become nine feet tall, but the average height of a marine is somewhere between seven and eight feet tall.

All in all, a neophyte/aspirant undergoes a total of eighteen implants, plus training, in order to become a space marine. Its a long process, and for more details on the implants check out creation of a space marine.
The 'creation of a space marine' basically says they recruit murderous 10 year olds with psychotic tendencies from hive worlds, then they go through 19 phases of biological implants, then chemical conditioning, hypnotherapy, psychical training and then 'indoctrination'? Seems reasonable.

Is it true blood angels are vampires?

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